RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 14, 2012 at 8:26 am
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2012 at 8:41 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Scapegoating is a "sacrifice", doesn't change it from being scapegoating CRod. If there were no sacrifice it wouldn't be called scapegoating. Just random cruelty. As it is, scapegoating is senseless, ignorant, and vile but never random. There is always some end that those engaged in it hope to achieve. Just so happens that I take issue both with scapegoating and the ends that believers in scapegoating hope to achieve by it.
I've seen sacrifice and scapegoating (and both by human beings, no invocations of fairy tale bullshit required), one can be done without invoking the other. Your god could have sacrificed it's will, for example, without scapegoating some poor creature.
"The father wants to free him and can even have it happen but son should refuse and accept his punishment." -Which, transferring this analogy back to the source, would mean refusing the "gift" or "sacrifice" of scapegoating christ. This is what I've been beating my head against a wall to explain in the first place, that this "gift" is unacceptable. For some reason you are capable of realizing this easily when the object is anything other than your myths. Again, this sort of faith crushes us in so many ways.
I've seen sacrifice and scapegoating (and both by human beings, no invocations of fairy tale bullshit required), one can be done without invoking the other. Your god could have sacrificed it's will, for example, without scapegoating some poor creature.
"The father wants to free him and can even have it happen but son should refuse and accept his punishment." -Which, transferring this analogy back to the source, would mean refusing the "gift" or "sacrifice" of scapegoating christ. This is what I've been beating my head against a wall to explain in the first place, that this "gift" is unacceptable. For some reason you are capable of realizing this easily when the object is anything other than your myths. Again, this sort of faith crushes us in so many ways.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
