Any Evidence For A Historical Jesus?

[King_Charles]

Bethlehem was deffo a city, it is mentioned a few times in the OT, and the Romans sacked it during the Jewish war. Pretty hard to sack a tribe.

Comprehension isn't your strong suit. I never said Bethlehem wasn't a city. In the "prophecy" of Micah 5:2 it is called Bethlehem Ephrathah which is a clan and the verse even continues with though you are small among the clans of Judah. Kind of weird how that was intentionally lied about in the gospels.

As for Nazareth, the point that the author was making was relating back to the suffering servant prophecy. "The stone that the builders rejected shall become the cornerstone..." and all that. Nazareth was the Jewish equivalent of wales, very bad reputation, collaborators, looked down upon by the rest of the nation. A whole stream of OT prophecies emphasize the Messiah's lowly origins, calling him the Nazarene feeds into all of that.

Calling him Jesus of Nazareth is a misreading of Netzer by the idiots who wrote the gospels. There is no possible way you are going to justify that fuckup with the bible but your welcome to try (it will be a waste of your time).

Excuse me but there's no need to get personal, it is hard to convey meaning via text, and you were not explicit enough in your phrasing to avoid that confusion.

In any case... I'm not here to defend every OT prophecy or would I try, but clan/town/city, at the level of society we're talking about are kinda interchangeable.

As to the Nazerene, thing I think you should stop reading terrible biblical analysis written by people who think the world was created in six days as your basis for your disagreements with the bible. It is made explicit in John that Nazerenes were looked down on, ""Nazareth!" exclaimed Nathanael. "Can anything good come from Nazareth?" "Come and see for yourself," Philip replied.". All there is to it is that. Though I won't deny the authors of the synoptic gospels were sometimes over-eager to fit the OT prohecies to the story they were telling, what you're citing is a load of proverbial poop made up by Christian Fundamentalists to justify their reading of the bible in modern times.