RE: Evidence Against God
April 17, 2012 at 4:12 pm
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm by Reforged.)
(April 17, 2012 at 4:01 pm)Abishalom Wrote:Through out this thread you've claimed that natural evidence either: a) doesn't count or b) doesn't exist. Do you have the memory of a goldfish or are you being willfully ignorant?(April 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:When did I ever say there was no natural evidence? Either you lack comprehension or you are being manipulative with my words. I don't think you're dumb, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.(April 17, 2012 at 3:35 pm)Abishalom Wrote:(April 17, 2012 at 2:57 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:(April 17, 2012 at 3:45 am)Abishalom Wrote: What is supernatural evidence? All we have is natural evidence and it suggests that it was created by some higher power (God). The burden of proof lies on the prosecutor who has to prove beyond reasonable doubt guilty/nonexistence. So in other words to claim that God does not exists you would to possess all possible evidence (we do not have). So the best you could do is prove that all the natural evidence we have suggests nonexistence unanimously without a hint (reasonable doubt) that God did it.
So... you don't have any "supernatural evidence"? Is that what you're saying? It seems suspiciously close to that.
Look, its a very simple question. Did I sound like I was claiming anything? The burden of proof is on the person trying to prove something exists and before you say you aren't, you are. You're going on about how natural evidence doesn't cut it for the supernatural, well fine.
Do you have any supernatural evidence or not.
Wipe away the tears, sweat and shame and try again. Honestly, its fine. I'll wait. :-)
Exactly. What is supernatural evidence? The proof for God is in nature. God is not in nature, but the proof of His existence is in His creation. Think of it like a signature. The burden of proof is on the prosecutor. I am making no claims. I believe that God exists, and that He created everything. I gave my reason (or proof) for this belief. The only claims being made is by the prosecutors(God does not exist or the evidence concludes nonexistence).
Oh ho ho ho. *Bad* choice of words. You said there was no natural evidence and now you're saying proof of his existence is in nature! Do I sense bullshit? I think I do! I also think you'll find thats a claim in itself without any justification. Can you back that claim up? No? Could you point out the claims I've made in this thread? No!?
Quote:I think you'll find thats game, set and match. :-)Well you got the game part right because you obviously like playing games. But you're the atheist. What is the logic behind this position?
Oh *right*, its my lack of comprehension that just forced you to make an ridiculously unbacked claim. Good one. Way to turn the tables on me, you shouldn't be embarrassed of that response at all. Do you blame all of your mistakes on others or is this a one off? I'm guessing its the first option.
Oh and I like playing games because it gives me entertainment before I take on someone with challenging points that actually takes up more then 1% of my IQ to discuss. You are not such an individual. You're more the court jester that entertains me before I deal with serious matters.
Be proud my little clown, be proud. :-)