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Evidence Against God
RE: Evidence Against God
(April 17, 2012 at 6:02 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:
(April 17, 2012 at 5:38 pm)Abishalom Wrote: What exactly are you trying to say Ralphie? You're all over the place. You quote me saying "If all we can see is the natural world, then how does our knowledge of the natural world prove that God does not exists?" and tell me that this is the same thing as saying "the natural evidence either does not count or does not exist" (which it isn't). Now you are asking me if the same evidence usable for "proving God if it isn't allowed to discount? Where did I say that? You seem to be making inferences from my quotes that just are not there.

Are you retarded? That is *your* quote, are you having trouble understanding what *your* quote entails? You imply that knowledge of the natural world cannot be used to disprove the existence of God because God is "supernatural" making the evidence invalid yet you seem perfectly content to try and use natures mere existence to attempt to prove the existence of God:
"The proof for God is in nature. God is not in nature, but the proof of His existence is in His creation. Think of it like a signature."
I mean wow, this is just pathetic now. The sheer hypocrisy, you're like a wounded animal that refuses to be put out of its misery.
You fucked up, deal with it because all you're doing now is compounding your error.
Ralphie I never mentioned anything about supernatural. That was you. Also it was you that implied our knowledge of the natural world cannot be used to disprove the existence of God. Nowhere in any of my quotes do I speak of such things. My question was how does our knowledge of the natural world prove God does not exists or in other words make atheism the default position.

Let's examine my original quote...
"If all we can see is the natural world, then how does our knowledge of the natural world prove that God does not exists?"
From this statement I only implied 2 things 2 things. All we can see is the natural world and we have knowledge of the natural world. That's it. You claiming that this is equivalent to "the natural evidence either does not exist or does not count" is just off base. Now this was presented in the form of a question (which you never answered) instead only making ill-advised assumptions.
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Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 11:24 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by NoMoreFaith - April 13, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Pearls a stinger - April 13, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 13, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 13, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 13, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by jackman - April 13, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by SophiaGrace - April 13, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by downbeatplumb - April 13, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 13, 2012 at 12:13 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 13, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by SophiaGrace - April 13, 2012 at 3:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 14, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Minimalist - April 16, 2012 at 11:48 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Minimalist - April 13, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by padraic - April 13, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 16, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 16, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:45 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by FallentoReason - April 17, 2012 at 5:13 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 5:24 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 12:31 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 1:22 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 3:50 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 4:34 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 5:15 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Cyberman - April 20, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 20, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by genkaus - April 17, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 16, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 16, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 16, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 16, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by padraic - April 17, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Adjusted Sanity - April 17, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Jaysyn - April 17, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 17, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 17, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Faith No More - April 17, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by downbeatplumb - April 17, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Faith No More - April 17, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 17, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by mediamogul - April 17, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 19, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Faith No More - April 17, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 17, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Paul the Human - April 17, 2012 at 9:02 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Garpike34 - April 19, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 5:31 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 5:51 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 6:27 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 7:27 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Minimalist - April 19, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 19, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 20, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by frankiej - April 20, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 20, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 20, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Welsh cake - April 20, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Evidence Against God - by Cyberman - April 21, 2012 at 12:01 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Abishalom - April 21, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Phil - April 21, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Ace Otana - April 21, 2012 at 8:02 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by Cyberman - April 21, 2012 at 12:34 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by padraic - April 21, 2012 at 1:09 am
RE: Evidence Against God - by simplexity - April 21, 2012 at 1:19 am

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