RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 20, 2012 at 8:19 pm
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2012 at 8:34 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You call this scapegoating business justice, I don't think it is. You call it compassion, I don't think that it is. You call it mercy, I don't think that it is. I think its just a bunch of people trying to tie a goat to a post, lay all their shortcomings on the poor thing, and slit it's throat. That's where this narrative comes from CRod. Every once in a great while I don't mind being the bearer of bad news, this is one of those times.
The bible doesn't make for a very useful manual on any of those things you just mentioned. If you ever found yourself on trial, are you certain you'd like to hear the words "let's see what the bible has to say on the matter" fall out of the judge's lips?
You think that our soldiers "do it all for us"? That's more than a little bit naive. Hell, we have what then, 6 million or so 18 year old Jesus' hopping about in body armor at present? What the hell do I need yours for? I may as well just drop onto my knees for myself, eh? And so what if they did, do you want them to do everything they do for you? If you were given a choice would you sign onboard when they gang-rape some little girl? Bomb civilians? I doubt it. Just because someone "does something for you" does not make the "gift" a good one. What if some asshole delivered you a girls head in the mail, because he just loved you so fucking much?
Well it's good that he didn't spend a millisecond here then, isn't it? lol.
We are responsible, would you rather we string someone up to a post and then say "all is forgiven"? What the fuck, seriously?
Scapegoating is a sacrifice. It remains scapegoating. Scapegoating is the act of sacrificing some other creature -in your stead- for what you have done. It is the act of laying all responsibility for some negative thing upon something other than yourself, regardless of whether or not they are to blame. Argue your way out of that by reference to the biblical narrative. You need to bust out your dictionary, read either of the wikis I gave you, something, anything, because this is getting old. This is why it is a dilemna, there is no way around it. The narrative is one of scapegoating. I can't find anything about scapegoating that strikes me as anything less than disgusting. If the narrative were true, it would be disgusting to me. If the narrative were false, it would be disgusting to me. If it worked, it would be disgusting to me. If it didn't, it would be disgusting to me. The only way for you to make this whole religion less disgusting to me is to drop the narrative entirely, and you can't do that, because it is the very essence of the fucking faith. Are you getting a clearer picture of why I am not a christian at this point? What I'm left wondering, is who else you'd be willing to scapegoat to escape whatever ails you? I'm wondering if you are a scape-goater, or if you only think this is ok as it applies to your favorite myths. You've spent time in every post trying to make this something other than scapegoating, and to me, that would seem to imply that you are not. That you have as much a problem with scapegoating as I do.
The bible doesn't make for a very useful manual on any of those things you just mentioned. If you ever found yourself on trial, are you certain you'd like to hear the words "let's see what the bible has to say on the matter" fall out of the judge's lips?
You think that our soldiers "do it all for us"? That's more than a little bit naive. Hell, we have what then, 6 million or so 18 year old Jesus' hopping about in body armor at present? What the hell do I need yours for? I may as well just drop onto my knees for myself, eh? And so what if they did, do you want them to do everything they do for you? If you were given a choice would you sign onboard when they gang-rape some little girl? Bomb civilians? I doubt it. Just because someone "does something for you" does not make the "gift" a good one. What if some asshole delivered you a girls head in the mail, because he just loved you so fucking much?
Well it's good that he didn't spend a millisecond here then, isn't it? lol.
We are responsible, would you rather we string someone up to a post and then say "all is forgiven"? What the fuck, seriously?
Scapegoating is a sacrifice. It remains scapegoating. Scapegoating is the act of sacrificing some other creature -in your stead- for what you have done. It is the act of laying all responsibility for some negative thing upon something other than yourself, regardless of whether or not they are to blame. Argue your way out of that by reference to the biblical narrative. You need to bust out your dictionary, read either of the wikis I gave you, something, anything, because this is getting old. This is why it is a dilemna, there is no way around it. The narrative is one of scapegoating. I can't find anything about scapegoating that strikes me as anything less than disgusting. If the narrative were true, it would be disgusting to me. If the narrative were false, it would be disgusting to me. If it worked, it would be disgusting to me. If it didn't, it would be disgusting to me. The only way for you to make this whole religion less disgusting to me is to drop the narrative entirely, and you can't do that, because it is the very essence of the fucking faith. Are you getting a clearer picture of why I am not a christian at this point? What I'm left wondering, is who else you'd be willing to scapegoat to escape whatever ails you? I'm wondering if you are a scape-goater, or if you only think this is ok as it applies to your favorite myths. You've spent time in every post trying to make this something other than scapegoating, and to me, that would seem to imply that you are not. That you have as much a problem with scapegoating as I do.
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