(April 22, 2012 at 12:59 am)genkaus Wrote:(April 22, 2012 at 12:28 am)Phil Wrote: Last time I checked the KCA is an argument for the existence of god. You telling me that the conclusion has to be believed before the premise is valid? IOW, the KCA is valid because god exists and you think anyone except a brain dead fundamentalist is going to accept that as a valid premise?
No, I'm simply telling you what a theist's response to your argument would be. I've seen enough to know what they'd say even if I cannot fathom the logic behind it.
As it says in the OP, no Christian, Muslim or whoever else uses this bogus argument can do so honestly and if they do, everyone who reads this post now has the knowledge to rip it to shreds.
Your answer falls under dishonesty so it matters not one bit if they make that claim.