RE: Sup, im a christian
August 22, 2009 at 9:30 am
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2009 at 9:46 am by Kyuuketsuki.)
(August 21, 2009 at 3:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Arcanus and Jon Paul debate you all into the ground - I'm actually embarrassed at the lack of opposition. Jon Paul challenged you all and you have yet to make a slight impression let alone any serious rebuttal. Ass kicked? Yours surely has bin.
Actually I rather assume you were joking but if not I guess I agree with Rev ... but hey, you're entitled to whatever delusion you wish
Kyu
(August 21, 2009 at 4:53 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: @ Rev
Jon Paul's thread is here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-1477-page-1.html
Arcanus: just search for his posts.
What you miss Frodo is that an answer is not necessarily an answer i.e. it does not necessarily deal with or trump the points previously made and that is exactly the sort of thing that JP is guilty of ... take my argument with him about reality, nowhere has he actually managed to demonstrate that a virtual universe ois a more or even an equally reasonable likelihood. That's just one example. Another is your constant insistence that your god is indetectable by science, and should be (in essence the NOMA concept) ... I know what your arguments are, I understand them (much like I understand the psychobabble JP comes out with) but just because you continue to insist you are right does not now or ever mean you are right!
Kyu
(August 21, 2009 at 5:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Our logic is sound. You cannot rebut it. Faith is based upon this logic, it is not in any way 'blind'. To prove that you would have to rebut the logic.
Er no, it's not ...
(August 21, 2009 at 5:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The evidence in your face is consistent logic, so you have no reason to conclude anything contrary. Yet you do. Which is my point.. you cling to marginalist philosophy that can't be logically defended to support your worldview.
... and will never be so until such day as you actually provide hard, validatable, empirical evidence! Philosophy alone has NEVER proven a damned thing and metaphysics can be somewhat cynically defined as a means of justifying that which cannot be demonstrated empirically.
If you want to demonstrate god YOU HAVE TO PRODUCE REAL, HARD,VALIDATABLE EVIDENCE!!!!!! YOU HAVE FAILED TO DO SO AND SO HAVE Arcanus, Jon Paul, The Truth and the fuckwit!
Kyu
(August 21, 2009 at 6:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: JP ADDRESSES a subject that exists outside the temporal realm! JP reasons precisely why it applies to Christianity and not any other spurious examples. It gives absolute credence.
And arguments have been presented against all of the points made. That YOU find the evidence compelling says more about your willingness to believe in fairy tales than it does anything else!
(August 21, 2009 at 6:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: EvF: You want me to think for you Evie? The logic is presented - deal with it or not, it's your choice
The logic is flawed!
Kyu
(August 21, 2009 at 7:08 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You want to measure non temporal with temporal tools then? We can consider it AND reach logical conclusions. That's the subject.
Here we go again ... more fucking NOMA!
Kyu
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