RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
April 29, 2012 at 6:57 pm
(This post was last modified: April 29, 2012 at 7:08 pm by Drich.)
(April 29, 2012 at 11:58 am)Welsh cake Wrote: The real question is "Does he want to?" because why else are you, a fellow man, asking and not the god himself?If the President or the Queen or whomever was the most important person in your country were to invite you over for a state dinner would you also demand that he/she personally invite you, or would an invite from someone on their staff be ok?
Quote:As I've told Christians countless time before, he does nothing.
His infinite desire to love us and his infinite desire to punish us for our transgressions cancel each other out. I'm quite surprised Christians don't use this as an argument for explaining why their god does not interact with humanity or let his presence be know.
What about this: God's primary attribute is not an all encompassing love as most think. Rather we are told in the bible it is Righteousness.
(April 29, 2012 at 3:18 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:Not at all Paul explains in Romans 10.(April 29, 2012 at 11:49 am)Drich Wrote: ...
Is it a person's fault they goto Hell? Yes We all Chose our eternal fate to one degree or another.
Is it wrong for a Christian not to share the Gospel? Absolutely yes. We have been commissioned to do so. This should be the only reason we live after accepting the Good news for ourselves.
Maybe I'll get back to issue of God and love. I think that the issue is superfluous for the time being so I'll focus on your answers to my two main questions.
I think it's a contradiction to hold that a person goes to hell by their free will, and that a Christian should witness. In one part, you're saying (going back to my Bob and Larry example) that Bob went to hell because of his own free will. Yet, at the same time, you're saying that Larry (by not witnessing) may have had something to do with Bob going to hell. That seems like a huge contradiction to me.
Romans 10:
14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:
“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace,[h]
Who bring glad tidings of good things!”[i]
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?”[j] 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.