(May 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Why call it hell then?
I can't stand the mental concept of your god. I find it revolting and repugnant. I'd take the void of oblivion over your god concept any day (if that's what you mean by absence of god).
I couldn't give a flying shit if you think this pains or saddens god. It'll teach the fucker not to start up another crapsack reality ever again if that's the case, because it'll simply backfire in his face.
Now that we've established according to your theology, your belief system, we're damned for all eternity, why are you here with us lost causes?
I'm not God, so I can't speak for what things may or may not be like after death. Maybe to non-Christians, hell will be exactly what they want. Not having to deal with God. It's public society that's created this image that hell is a terrible place for non-believers, not the Bible.
If you think you'd enjoy hell then cool. Spending an eternity in heaven with some God you hate would suck anyways, so all the better for the alternative, right? God's just giving you what you want. Really.
And why am I here on this forum? Because I believe any Christian that just blindly follows their beliefs without testing them is a fool. I'm not here to convert anyone. (If someone WERE to change their mind, it certainly wouldn't be through any argument I put forth.) I'm here to see if anyone can come up with an argument against Christianity that challenges me to look at my beliefs.
So far, I haven't heard anything particularly challenging.
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them."
-- Galileo Galilei
-- Galileo Galilei