(May 1, 2012 at 10:04 pm)Shell B Wrote:You're making the same fallacious argument. You're claiming that the weight from above was too heavy for below. Well gee...If that's the case then it's no wonder that the tower did not collapse before the plane crashed. Their was no significant mass added above (other than a couple plane) during the ordeal. Yet you claim the top was to heavy for the bottom. The top floor collapsing on the bottom floors does not explain how the whole structure collapsed in unison. But that is not sufficient to explain how the whole structure collapsed.(May 1, 2012 at 9:58 pm)Abishalom Wrote: No it's not that easy unless we rationalize it as you have. Even if the top floors collapses that does not explain the domino effect we see in the WTC collapse videos. You're claiming that because the floors were large the top floors cause the lower floor (that are not on fire) to just collapse at once (in less than 2 hours). It doesn't work like that.
Rationalize it in what way? I mean, you say rationalize as if it is a bad thing. Would you rather I unrationalize and make wild claims?
Yes, it does completely explain the domino effect. It's simple. Something heavy lands on something else. If it is heavy enough to collapse that something, it will do so. It then gains the weight of the said thing it has collapsed and will subsequently crush the next thing below it, given that said thing is also not strong enough to hold up the weight of these collapsed structures. Such was the case with the floors of the World Trade Centers. Now, if it was controlled demolition, there would have been explosions within the structure while rescue efforts were underway. There was no such thing. Furthermore, it would not have collapsed from the top down. It would have collapsed from the inside. The effect would have been pretty much the same, but we would not have seen very clearly that it was being crushed from the top, as we see from every angle in every video.
Observe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdqWRHe4AKs
There is a very notable difference. You can even fucking see the flashes as the demo materials explode.
BTW The planes hit on the 93rd and 99th floors of the buildings. So you are basically saying that 17 and 11 floors collapsing on 93 and 97 floors respectively. Which is irrational.