Shepherds –> Bulls –> Judges -> Angels -> gods -> God !!

[dtango]

Holy fucking shit balls.

dtango, while it is not expressly against the rules to post things you have posted elsewhere, it is discouraged, as this forum is discussion based.

My dear foul-language lady,
this is an atheist’s forum and I have been posting an article derived from a theory that aims to prove that there is a very good chance that the whole issue of the immaterial gods is just a plain tragicomic joke.

Read the last part of the article that follows after this post.
It is devoted to you!

(Sorry Rhythm… Ladies first!)

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The motifs composing the universal “mono-myth”.

Part Six, “Angels” (Messengers)

Some of those, therefore, who replaced the gods after their defeat and came into power, belonged to the race of the gods. They claimed they had the departed masters’ approval and retained the social system established by them.

It seems, however, that the defeated ones did not leave the land right away but retreated to some safe place and operated as a government in exile, or the rebels said so to the people, because reports of the existence of the messengers occur in almost every culture, meaning that the messengers operated for quite some time.

The Malozi people of Zambia say that Nyambe, who was first in the world, lived on earth with his wife, Nasilele, and he made the rivers, plains, animals, and the first people, Kamunu and his wife. When the god got tired of the demands of Kamunu took his messenger and the antelope and went away from Kamunu to live on an island.

The following myth of the Yorubas describes accurately the function of the messengers:

Once, long ago, all people lived in one town, called Ife, and they all spoke one simple language, Yoruba. In those days everyone was equal in all respects. Their skin was the same color, they were all good at the same things, they were all equally strong, equally beautiful, and equally healthy. Everyone had enough of what they needed, but no one had too much. If anyone needed something, they had only to inform God’s messenger, and he would tell God, who would provide them with what they needed.
There was only one problem. People were bored. They wanted a change. So they started complaining to God’s messenger, asking for different things. Some wanted a bigger house. Some wanted different color skin. Some wanted to speak differently. So it went on. In the beginning the messenger would faithfully carry all their demands to God and God would listen patiently. But after a while God became irritated. He told the messenger what to tell them. The messenger went back to the people.
‘God says you are to be content with what he has given you. He has deliberately arranged things in this way so that you will not have anything to quarrel with each other about.’ But the people were not happy. ‘Tell God he must give us what we ask, or we will revolt against him. We will have nothing more to do with him. We will organize our affairs the way we want them, without his help.’
(“Εssential African Mythology” by Ngangar Mbitu & Ranchor Prime, pg.6)

The god eventually gave in and so we have today many skin colors, many different languages and injustice.
As you may have noticed, whatever the Yoruba people knew and believed about their god it was what the messenger told them about him.

From another book, “A Comprehensive Dictionary of the Gods” by Anne S. Baumgartner, pg. 64, we learn that: The Yorubas of Africa call the deities who serve as messengers between gods and mortals “Eschu.” They are indispensable but nasty.

The messengers are reported to have been feared by the gods too.
In the “Horus and Seth” legend, Osiris appears to be arguing with the gods of the Ennead and is exchanging letters with them. In reply to a letter he received he writes a letter back saying:

Now you pay attention to this matter!
The land in which I am is full of savage-looking messengers who fear no god or goddess. If I send them out, they will bring me the heart of every evildoer, and they will be here with me.

Obviously, the messenger regime was proved worse than the one run by the gods and the people demanded that the gods come back.
The gods were supposed to live in inaccessible (the summit of Mount Olympus) or prohibited places (the guarded Cedar Forrest) but those were seemingly not excuses enough and the messengers invented the perfect excuse for the gods’ absence: “the gods moved and went to live on the clouds.” According to the Egyptian theology they climbed to heavens by ladder!!

Most of the messengers of the Mesopotamian gods are known by their names.
In the Norse mythology, the messenger of the gods is Hermod, one of the sons of Odin. Gna is the messenger of the goddess Frigga, wife of Odin.
For the natives of the Caroline Islands, the god of fire, singing and dancing, Olofad is the messenger of Lugeilan, the god of knowledge.
The god Tiki, from the Marquesas and Society Islands, is the god of virility and the messenger of the gods.
The natives of the Samoa Islands say that the creator Tangaroa created several Tangaroas; among them was Tangaroa the messenger.
Messengers are known from the Japanese tradition too. From the Kojiki:

My elder brother, Ukasi, ran after the messenger of the son of the Celestial kami.

The great Mexican god Quetzalcoatl besides his other many titles is also called messenger of the gods.
In the Persian tradition, Sraosh is the divine messenger and mediator between gods and humans.
In the Greek mythology apart from Hermes and Iris, the official messengers of the pantheon, all gods are thought to operate as messengers when carrying messages of Zeus.
And finally, there are many cultures where the messengers of the gods are thought to be some animals or birds.

There is the possibility that the very first time that the ascension of the gods was announced by a messenger it was told as a joke. There is, therefore, a very good chance that the whole issue of the immaterial gods is just a plain tragicomic joke.

End of article.