God, come out, come out wherever you are!

[Godscreated]

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You are correct none of use are capable of salvation, only God can grant salvation through faith your faith in Christ.



God cares about everyone, where did you get the idea He doesn't?
God neglects no one, again where did you get the idea He does?


God gives everyone chances, how many only He knows. Even though He knows that a person will not ever accept Christ, out of His love He still gives them an opportunity for salvation, He desires that no one be lost.


No I'm not, God is love, it is who He is, God loves all. God is not to blame, the one has the free will to accept or reject the salvation that comes through faith in Christ.


God has the entire universe at His disposal, being that He created the universe He could create whatever He desires. Christ is building mansions in heaven, He has one for me, one so magnificent that nothing on earth could ever compare.

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What Welsh meant is that none of you have been able to put together a clear and coherent argument in your favor without disagreeing on many aspects of who this god person is.

I understood what he was saying.

As for your second point, if god supposedly knows how history will unfold then doesn't that imply that it is set in stone and unchangeable?

That goes without saying, this however has no bearing on God's love for us. He can and does offer it no matter what one will do. No one can slight God for being just when He has offered His love to all.

On your third point, if there was a god, either he is not all-powerful as you suspect or he is simply absent or flawed, as he continues to let the better part of his creation suffer in squalid conditions.

God has been and always will be, omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. Sin is what's wrong with the world, I do not expect you to understand, God moves in history to complete His will, what makes you think that we are not the ones that should be taking care of these squalid conditions, we the people of this planet created it.

On your forth point, logically that does not make sense. If he knew they were going to hell anyways, then why not just send them there to begin with? Why then, if he desires that nobody be lost, does he not show himself and woo us with displays of his awesome power and make us believe in him? Finally, the idea of heaven, however ideal it may be, is just that, an ideal. Much in the same way Mount Olympus was for the Greeks, or the Afterlife was to the Egyptians. And this below pretty much sums up my feelings on the Christian god and the resurrection of his son.

It makes perfect sense, you're not looking at this through God's love. In your second sentence you state they, why, do you believe you are not one of them. If, in the end you're one of them, would you want God to send you there before you got to live a life? God has shown displays of His awesome powers, you have rejected them, there's a parable that fits your disbelief concerning this particular situation, read the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, Luke 16. None of hose promised me a mansion, I pretty sure I,m going to enjoy my mansion, bright and sparkling and lit by the Glory of Christ. In regard to your last sentence, childish.