(May 3, 2012 at 6:30 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: Godschild, you and Ryft are very good at defending your beliefs, but for an atheist like me, your arguments fail to achieve the only thing that would really make a difference. They fail to offer a convincing or compelling reason to believe that gods of any kind actually exist.
The name of this thread calls your god out of hiding, but the discussion that follows makes it clear that he is hidden in the distraction of the details. Everyone arguing about how the whole godverse works, rather than the existence of a god at all.
In other words, until you have shown me a reason to believe that gods exist in the first place I have no reason to take any of this seriously. Unless a God exists, the stories about that god are nothing but myth.
Paul, I do not know what to say that I've not already said about the existence of God, it's God's will that faith in Christ is what's required of us. Let me say this, do you think that there are times, and have been times, that christians wish God would show Himself to us, you can bet we have. We do take solace in this though, Christ said "blessed are those who believe without seeing. Why is it when I look at nature I see God's work, and you see evolution in motion, and we both believe we are right in what we see.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.