Ridge: Bush officials sought to raise terror alert before '04 vote

[Pippy]

you can't back it up with valid evidence

(me) Barry named a cabinet of Israeli war criminals and Trilateral/PNAC thugs. Illegal and worrisome.

"AmericanFreePress is reporting on the extraordinary ties that members of his new cabinet have to these elitist globalist organizations (think tanks, edit me)that have dominated American politics for generations now.
The reality is that no President in the past 30 years has picked a cabinet that was not completely dominated by members of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg group.
Of Barack Obama's 14 top cabinet selections, 9 of them are affiliated with the Bilderberg group, 10 of them are affiliated with the Council on Foreign Relations and 5 of them are affiliated with the Trilateral Commission"
Should I name names, or is this good enough? That took about 25 seconds.

(me) The last thing Bush did before leaving was seal presidential records... ...The first thing Barry did was seal his records from Occidental College

"Officials at Occidental College in Los Angeles, Calif., have been served with a demand to produce records concerning Barack Obama's attendance there during the 1980s because they could document whether he was attending as a foreign national – in one of three fronts now established by those contesting the president-elect's constitutional eligibility for the Oval Office. "
Why would they need to serve the college to get the paperwork. Oh, because Barky's lawyers are all over them... That took about 2 minutes.

(me)Bush had a bailout. It was a crime.
Barry had a bailout, it was bigger and more deceitful.

"Oddly, while announcing his toothless plan to the public, Obama’s Treasury Secretary had the gall to add some populist rhetoric in referring to Bush’s bank bailout: 'The spectacle of huge amounts of taxpayer money being provided to the same institutions that helped cause the crisis, with limited transparency and oversight, added to the public distrust.'
Exactly! But now the exact same thing is being done. Instead, as The New York Times points out:
… the plan largely repeats the Bush administration’s approach of deferring to many of the same companies and executives who had peddled risky loans and investments at the heart of the crisis and failed to foresee many of the problems plaguing the markets.' (The New York Times February 10, 2009)"
There, another google, another 30 seconds.

There is more, but there, is that what you wanted? I really hate to have to do that. I don't like posting other peoples media, and instead speak for myself. Could you not have done the google searches on your own, and figured it out for yourself? Instead of disagreeing with me on principle because I used one nasty trigger word of crazies, look it up. And when I used the term "shadow government", it was in reference to what would be the dictionary definition of such. Is it still CT madness?

I agree that it is actually a matter of facts and not opinions. But the facts are so messy, and there is so much disinformation, and people have a nasty habit of not seeing very scary things that go against what they believe... So it can be fairly called that Eilonnwy and I are disagreeing over a matter of opinion. Only because I don't want you to have to feel marginalized. If you want to think Obama is not the same as bush, just less beige, go ahead. I really respect your right to see the world however you see it. But you reacted very poorly to me saying that I dislike Obama, that he is very similar to Bush, and that someone else must hold a higher office than the two.

I don't really want to drag this out, any more that is... But I did what you asked, and posted silly news quotes. If I were you I would go for the jugular and discredit those stories. I would tell me that I am an idiot for believing such tripe. Seriously.

Thanks for your time,
-Pip