God, come out, come out wherever you are!

[Welsh cake]

I think you haven't put all the quote tags in properly GC. Let's see here...

You would not want God to intervene in your life, now would you.

I wouldn't know. I can't exactly say divine intervention is a regular occurrence in my day-to-day life.

What's truly appalling, man's lack of caring for man, God works through man and if mankind doesn't care then how is He to help.

So when I choose to selflessly help my fellow man, sometimes at my own expense, I'm only doing it because I'm your god's puppet?

We are the ones at fault that the world is the shape it is, and you think God's suppose to intervene, why, it's our mess.

You've gone off the original topic - we're talking about being saved from eternal condemnation not the trivial ongoings in this supposed finite realm. The stakes are high we risk going to Hell and your god's doing nothing, apparently.

Why do you assume that God's passion and drive would ever wan. He will withdraw the opportunity in His perfect timing through His fore knowledge.

You've just answered my question. Right, so at what point does he withdraw the opportunity because he no longer loves the unrepentant sinner and gives them up to their own ways?

God desires our love, worship, obedience and ect., those things we can withhold from Him. Outside of the things we withhold from God, I do not know what He would desire since He can create anything He would want.

He does not desire everyone's love because he knows that's never going to happen. He only loves the elect right?

Some people can make a decision quicker than others, your statement is not relevant about the amount of time, also God's foreknowledge comes into the equation. For those that die very young, well there destination is heaven.

So their choice, their freewill, to make the concious decision whether to love or hate god was denied then right?

All those things you mentioned have nothing to do with you being incompatible with my beliefs in God or eternity, more than likely it's because of your lack of self esteem.

I don't desire eternity. I don't desire Heaven. I'm not even particularly happy that I had to exist even once. Sorry, I am very much incompatible in that I don't share your desires and beliefs.

I'm sorry it makes no sense to you, I really wish it did. God is because He has always been, do not expect a better answer than this from me, my mind can not conceive such vastness.

Well then its pointless continuing that discussion isn't it? Look at it from my perspective for a change - I have no idea what you're talking about exactly and it doesn't help when you admit you also have no idea what you're talking about.

Salvation from sin and whatever makes you have an attitude where you don't care. From our other discussions it seems to me that you care very little, I hope I'm wrong in my thinking and I certainly do not mean it in a demeaning way.

You are almost correct, I don't care at all.

In your theology I'm 'goddamned' mate.

I believe this one to be down to earth, not to rich for our blood so to speak. Matthew 13:3-23 is a parable about a farmer, read all the verses they fit your life.

Nope, try again please.

The first two questions you'll have to answer for yourself.

I can't. I don't believe they really exist.

I'm not sure what you're relating to in the last sentence?

I don't understand why you want god or heaven.