RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 8, 2012 at 11:14 am
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2012 at 11:38 am by Mister Agenda.)
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: You are wrong, very wrong. it was a GIFT from a GRADUATING class to their SCHOOL> Government (state and federal) had no part in the matter. You are reading into this far too much.
A physical gift, with religious content, displayed in the lobby of a government-run school. It was illegal.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: There was NO violation of the supposed establishment claus.
That's a matter of opinion, but it's a matter of fact that it is currently illegal for public schools to display religous material.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: Then why is it ONLY atheists who are bringing these lawsuits?
Are you contending that I would be unable to cite any Jews or Hindus or Buddhists bringing a lawsuit that challenges Christian hegemony, anywhere in the country in the last sixty years? Because I can think of two cases off the top of my head, just in towns I lived in at the time (a Hindu in Champagne IL in the sixties and a Jew in Ft. Walton Beach FL in the eighties), when I wasn't even an atheist. I suspect I could find many more examples on the interwebz.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: As is yours. You have nothing to make your reading greater than anyone else's. Yours is based upon your unbelief and that is not enough.
Well, mine has the advantage that the Supreme Court, not made up of atheists, has consistently agreed with me.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: Wrong. itis the offense, you just use the principle and the law as an excuse to force out information you do not like. Atheists are very intolerant and spoiled little babies.
Good unintentional irony.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: Then the constitution is of no value and needs to be struck down, replaced by subjective opinion reliant upon the whims of those who are in power. All you are advocating is anarchy.
Using your own infantile reasoning, keeping the Constitution means all other laws need to be struck down, replaced by police and courts 'winging it' based on their individual interpretations of the Constitution. All you are advocating is abandonment of the rule of law.
The Constitution was never intended to be the sole law of the land. Laws are to be compliant to the Constitution, and the SCOTUS is the body charged with making sure that remains the case.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: Yes you will and you will have no MORAL fiber or standard to guide your actions. Then you will see how dangerous atheism is and how wrong you are.
I do sometimes worry that we'll turn out to be no more magnanimous in our majority-hood than Christians have been; but listening to Christianists like you inclines me to think we can hardly do worse.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: IF there is such a thing as religious freedom, it must apply to all even governments or there is no such thing as religious freedom.
ALL of the rights in the Ten Amendments are limitations on the government's activities, restrictions on what the government (and therefore, its agents) can do to citizens.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: If you merely expressed your opinions then there would be NO problems BUT atheists do not. They go to the courts and FORCE their opinions on others. (or try to force).
If Christianists merely obeyed the law, then there would be no problems. But Christianists do not. They secretively violate the law, hoping no one will notice, and when someone does, they go to the courts and waste taxpayer money on fighting lawsuits in the face of all the precedents that tell them they're going to lose. We're a tiny minority. We couldn't do anything if the law was not on our side. And that law wasn't decided by atheists. It was decided by the supreme court, whose rulings Christianists seem to delight in spitting on when they don't go their way.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:20 pm)DeeTee Wrote: If we want to take this a step further, you will notice that their is NO constitutional right to atheism. Read it without doing any eisegetical work and you will see your unbelief is unconstitutional.
P.S. Atheists claim that atheism is not a belief or a religion thus it is SOL.
Our rights are not limited to those spelled out in the Constiution. It says that in the Constitution. I have trouble fathoming the moral and legal mental retardation required to actually claim that atheism is unconstitutional.