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Is there any secular reason why being gay is bad?
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RE: Is there any secular reason why being gay is bad?
(May 14, 2012 at 6:00 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, maybe you can start by acting normal, if you don't do that already.

All arguments for normal rely on the fallacy ad populum, and irrelevant.

(May 14, 2012 at 6:00 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: But what is your identity? Do you become suddenly so defensive when someone states that he doesn't like computer games, getting drunk or laying in the sun? Obviously not.

If any of these things were subject to discrimination, then yes, you would become defensive about it.
To a certain extent, liking computer games sometimes requires a defensive position, for instance, if you enjoy first person shooters, you may be defensive in company of those who think they are responsible for gun sprees. The history of promoting games as an artistic medium like television or movies has been defensive in nature.

(May 14, 2012 at 6:00 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Then you do rather stand out with your identity. For those who want to blend in generally sacrifice a portion of their identity, always. You cannot blend in without doing that.

Quick question, hypothetically clearly, if your country became gay by majority, would you start dating men instead of women?

(May 14, 2012 at 6:00 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: But you do have the same rights, if you do not profess to your homosexual identity as your prime identity.
You can get married with a woman, you can join the military, you can do this and that and everything that normal people are legally capable of.

So Anti-miscegenation laws conferred equal rights to inter-racial couples because they still had the right to marry someone of the same racial background.

I think you misunderstand equal rights sir.

(May 14, 2012 at 6:00 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: The state treats you differently, because you treat yourself differently from everyone else.

Then stop pretending they do have equal rights. People treat themselves differently based on religion, race, gender, and sexuality.

Evidently you believe this is a case for discrimination, I do not.

(May 14, 2012 at 6:00 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I do not want to blend in with the rest, as I do not have to do that. I am the majority. I am a Turk.

I read that as I am a Jerk, whoops.

Equal rights don't matter because its not an issue that affects you personally. The critical test would be whether you would accept discrimination if you weren't.

(May 14, 2012 at 6:00 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: There is a huge difference between two men shaking hands, and two men holding hands.

As in the holding hands must be stopped.. because.. because.. um.. its not natural!.. damn, naturalistic fallacy,
Because its not NORMAL, damn damn, ad populum,

I've never been clear on what your basis is for your homophobia, other than it being exactly that, irrational fear.
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RE: Is there any secular reason why being gay is bad? - by NoMoreFaith - May 14, 2012 at 6:39 am

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