RE: I don't believe in Ghosts but I have seen one.
May 18, 2012 at 9:44 am
(This post was last modified: May 18, 2012 at 9:44 am by fuckass365.)
(May 18, 2012 at 9:40 am)jackman Wrote:(May 18, 2012 at 9:34 am)Phil Wrote: Define sentient. If you mean conscious, yes he is sentient. If you mean able to feel, no but by that criteria there are many people that wouldn't be considered sentient (and many more that would only be considered part sentient). Still, the question has been asked. How do you define a person?
i'm trying to determine what would make someone say he's not human. so if his lack sentience describes how they feel that way, then at least i'd understand where that thought came from. yes, conscience imo does it. to me, the child is a baby, regardless what is described about his condition.
As both Paul and I have pointed out, he IS a human. There is just no operator. He doesn't know he exists, I don't see how he can. I'm not being mean, it's just the truth. The same goes for anyone who is so severely mentally handicapped that they have almost no brain function. Hence the term, "vegetable".
(May 18, 2012 at 9:43 am)Phil Wrote:(May 18, 2012 at 9:40 am)jackman Wrote: i'm trying to determine what would make someone say he's not human. so if his lack sentience describes how they feel that way, then at least i'd understand where that thought came from. yes, conscience imo does it. to me, the child is a baby, regardless what is described about his condition.
I really would like to hear how Morshun and Paul define a person. In their zeal to define a person so as to make this baby a non-person, I can assure you they will eliminate quite a few other people from personhood.
Paul has expressed no further interest in the discussion but I do not mind. Although we are terribly off topic, lol.