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The 'poor Germans'? Are you seriously suggesting you have sympathy for the Nazis?

My estimation of you gets lower and lower Mehmet.

Nazis, Germans. They are the same. Nazis were in fact, Germans. I don't know how more clear one can get about this issue.
Really, you did whatever you did to the Germans. The fact that you call them "Nazis" is just propaganda. It gives you the impression that you did not punish the Germans for what "their government has done".
Besides, yes, I do have sympathy for the Germans. First, they were put under a brutal treaty that emancipated them, and when they said that they won't take shit from others anymore, you declared war upon them once more. Who wouldn't?
In theory, they had emulated us, how we had freed ourselves from the treaty of Sevres and built an independent nation.
Not to say the fault was entirely on your side. Hitler, in his megalomania was too careless with how fast he wanted to expand. He could have just bided his time for a little longer.
As you had said, we went a lot, a lot further than the Germans. We still exist as a nationalist country, a nation state that was built on the tenets nationalism, unlike the German government that was established after WWII, that was modelled after the US government.

Chuck said we suck too much to even go that far. We've already surpassed these, friend.

Although severely skewed in his outlook Mehmet does have a point in that the treaty and the repairations the Germans were made to pay from the First World War made a second inevitable. The Germans desperation during the depression caused by these harsh penalties made it all too easy for a nutcase like Hitler to get in power.

However, if I was to put rankings on every country in terms of progress then modern Germany would definitely be higher on the list than modern Turkey. Any arguement to the contrary would need to demonstrate evidence that Turkey has better technology, a better system of government, a better education system, better military, better policing, more influence in the world and a more enlightened social structure. Good luck with that.