(May 27, 2012 at 3:20 pm)ScienceLovesGod Wrote:(May 25, 2012 at 4:19 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: If there is no Christian god, then there is no such thing as sin. So, as I do not believe in one, I do not believe in the other. I can account for things such as murder and rape simply by knowing that people are animals which are driven by desire... and some people have very dark desires.
No gods required.
So if murder and rape, which are actions not to be done, according to the ten commandments, and of course your conscience, are to be done, can you really blame anyone for doing them? I mean, if that's their genetic programming, and their simply obeying their natural animal behavior patterns which came from lesser evolved primates, how can anyone say objectively that this is wrong, and not just by an opinionated standard?
There is no definite standard of right and wrong. What someone considers "wrong" is almost always something they wouldn't want to happen to themselves. Being able to empathise means you can have a sense of right and wrong. There is no definite objective standard of right and wrong, but most people can agree that certain things shouldn't be allowed.
The bible is an example of just this - a few people writing down what they feel shouldn't be allowed, not an objective moral standard handed down from god.