RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin.
May 27, 2012 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2012 at 3:54 pm by Tobie.)
(May 27, 2012 at 3:45 pm)ScienceLovesGod Wrote:(May 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm)Tobie Wrote: There is no definite standard of right and wrong. What someone considers "wrong" is almost always something they wouldn't want to happen to themselves. Being able to empathise means you can have a sense of right and wrong. There is no definite objective standard of right and wrong, but most people can agree that certain things shouldn't be allowed.
The bible is an example of just this - a few people writing down what they feel shouldn't be allowed, not an objective moral standard handed down from god.
If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Surely, there are actions most people agree on that are to be considered wrong. But let's say hypothetically if the entire world liked murder, and for some twisted reason everyone liked being murdered, then would those actions of murder be wrong?
Hypothetically, no. No-one would say that an activity that everyone loved to do or loved to have done to them is wrong.
(May 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm)Whistle Blower Wrote:(May 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm)Tobie Wrote: The bible is an example of just this - a few people writing down what they feel shouldn't be allowed, not an objective moral standard handed down from god.
So, how do you explain the 10 commandments which are the back bone of every civilised society?
1) Not all commandments are law in every civilised society
2) Some of them are sensible rules ( Do not murder, steal etc. ) and should be laws, because they are degrading to society. You do not need a god to see that.