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Understanding the bible
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RE: Understanding the bible
(May 28, 2012 at 4:48 pm)Godschild Wrote: You and Tobie do not agree I see. Tobie believes that scripture can be changed, because he thinks God makes mistakes, and yet can still be trusted and you see if the scriptures have to be changed, God can not be trusted, I agree with you on this point.

No, I was just going off what you said to me. I simply asked you if the script can be changed and you were quite clear that it can't. Everything else I said flowed from that.

Quote:God knows every aspect of the future and you're wondering about His power, how funny. God is not constrained by what He wrote, he let us know exactly what will be

Oh okay; so the script can be changed. I see.

Quote:ie. His unchangeable will.

Wait; now it can't?

Quote:There is no need for a change the victory is already won, the victory is set for eternity. It will be Satan and all the lost that will be complaining, but to no avail, God laid it all out so no one has an excuse.

So what's the point in even trying? What's all the praying and preaching about? Your side has already won. All you have to do is sit tight, secure in the knowledge that it matters not one jot or tittle what the rest of the world says, does and thinks.

Plus if I were to play a game rigged in such a way that there wasn't even even a possibilty of my winning, and I knew that up front but chose to play anyway, I wouldn't even bother wasting my breath complaining. It would serve your side right if, come Judgement Day, Satan just shrugged and said "fuck it" and went right back to making fossils or whatever it does (what exactly does it do, anyway?)

Quote:Now you're trying to pull the bait and switch with your double talk. In one statement you say God can not be trusted if He has to change scripture, in another you say that God has no power if He can't change the scriptures. So, what is it, it can't be both, make up your mind please.

Actually I said the Bible can't be trusted if your god intended to change its mind at the last minute. Personally I think your god, like all gods, has no power to do anything at all, including exist, but that's beside the point for now. I was just musing on the paradox of an entity deemed to have all power that can only act according to a storyline that's almost literally set in stone.

Incidentally, what's with the attitude? Regardless of your interactions with others, I've tried my best to be civil with you. It may strike you as unlikely but in my last few posts to you I was genuinely seeking information and have been genuinely interested in your opinions. If you wish me to change my approach, you have only to ask and I'll Minimalist you good.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Understanding the bible - by Whistle Blower - May 26, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Jesus Pipes - May 26, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Whistle Blower - May 26, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 26, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 26, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 26, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by salty - May 29, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 26, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by padraic - May 26, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Welsh cake - May 26, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Understanding the bible - by Zen Badger - May 26, 2012 at 7:43 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Jesus Pipes - May 26, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Erinome - May 26, 2012 at 7:53 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 26, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 26, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 26, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 26, 2012 at 11:45 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 26, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 27, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Tobie - May 27, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 28, 2012 at 1:48 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 28, 2012 at 2:13 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Tobie - May 28, 2012 at 3:58 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 28, 2012 at 2:02 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Tobie - May 28, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 28, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Tobie - May 28, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 28, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Tobie - May 28, 2012 at 5:05 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 28, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cinjin - May 28, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 27, 2012 at 2:47 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by The Heff - May 27, 2012 at 2:57 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 27, 2012 at 3:01 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Kayenneh - May 27, 2012 at 3:39 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Creed of Heresy - May 27, 2012 at 5:53 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Brian37 - May 27, 2012 at 6:22 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 27, 2012 at 10:49 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Faith No More - May 27, 2012 at 8:45 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by dtango - May 27, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Paul the Human - May 27, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 27, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 27, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by dtango - May 27, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Paul the Human - May 27, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Angrboda - May 27, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Drich - May 27, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 27, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 28, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Kayenneh - May 28, 2012 at 11:53 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 28, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 28, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Tobie - May 28, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 28, 2012 at 5:01 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 28, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 28, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 28, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Morganna - May 28, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Whateverist - May 29, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Welsh cake - May 28, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Kayenneh - May 28, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 28, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Faith No More - May 28, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 28, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 28, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Brian37 - May 28, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 28, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 28, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 28, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 29, 2012 at 12:45 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 29, 2012 at 3:28 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Zen Badger - May 29, 2012 at 4:16 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 29, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Zen Badger - May 30, 2012 at 2:10 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 29, 2012 at 12:23 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 29, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Brian37 - May 29, 2012 at 9:28 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 29, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cinjin - May 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Tobie - May 29, 2012 at 4:00 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 29, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 29, 2012 at 8:07 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2012 at 8:13 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 29, 2012 at 8:14 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Faith No More - May 29, 2012 at 9:14 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Welsh cake - May 29, 2012 at 9:50 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Brian37 - May 29, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cinjin - May 29, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Brian37 - May 29, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Brian37 - May 29, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 29, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 29, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 29, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 29, 2012 at 10:50 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Kayenneh - May 29, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Faith No More - May 29, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 29, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 29, 2012 at 1:32 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Jackalope - May 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Cyberman - May 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 29, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 29, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 29, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 29, 2012 at 11:45 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 29, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 29, 2012 at 10:23 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2012 at 10:23 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by salty - May 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 29, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 29, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 30, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 29, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 29, 2012 at 10:58 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 30, 2012 at 12:39 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 30, 2012 at 12:49 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 30, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 30, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 30, 2012 at 1:20 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Kayenneh - May 30, 2012 at 1:03 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Annik - May 30, 2012 at 1:10 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 30, 2012 at 1:37 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 30, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Zen Badger - May 30, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 30, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 30, 2012 at 2:26 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 30, 2012 at 3:27 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 30, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Brian37 - May 30, 2012 at 8:43 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 30, 2012 at 11:53 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 30, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by padraic - May 30, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Anomalocaris - May 30, 2012 at 7:27 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 30, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by FallentoReason - May 30, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Godschild - May 31, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Minimalist - May 30, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Annik - May 30, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 31, 2012 at 1:58 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Welsh cake - May 31, 2012 at 7:37 am
RE: Understanding the bible - by Epimethean - May 31, 2012 at 8:31 am

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