RE: Understanding the bible
May 28, 2012 at 10:48 pm
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2012 at 11:00 pm by Godscreated.)
@ Morganna, you're correct in what you have determined I said, I do not express myself well in writing, sorry. I would rather sit at a table and have a discussion with others, facial expressions tells one much about a person and what they say.
As for Exodus 32:9-14, I'm surprised no one else brought up this verse.
First of all this is a moment of time that has happened, so in that God can not change His mind, the future prophecies are what's being discussed and prophecies are God's absolute will and unchangeable. God can have a will to do something and then change His mind about it, this is not His set or absolute will and it would not change the future (His absolute will).
As for the verses in Exodus, I've always seen this as a test for Moses more than God actually going to destroy His chosen people, if God had done such a thing He would have broken a promise to Abraham, and God was not going to do that. If you would read the rest of the chapter you will see God teaching Moses about anger, leadership and punishment.
I've always thought we had good discussions, and I did not think of you anything but a decent person. I really hope that we can have good discussions in the future. I did not say you couldn't say what you want to about God, it's just your choice of words you and others use that can put me off at times.
As for Exodus 32:9-14, I'm surprised no one else brought up this verse.
First of all this is a moment of time that has happened, so in that God can not change His mind, the future prophecies are what's being discussed and prophecies are God's absolute will and unchangeable. God can have a will to do something and then change His mind about it, this is not His set or absolute will and it would not change the future (His absolute will).
As for the verses in Exodus, I've always seen this as a test for Moses more than God actually going to destroy His chosen people, if God had done such a thing He would have broken a promise to Abraham, and God was not going to do that. If you would read the rest of the chapter you will see God teaching Moses about anger, leadership and punishment.
(May 28, 2012 at 7:35 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I've pretty much done what I set out to do here anyway, for now, and we're running into that area in which exploring the connotations of the mythology is interpreted as a personal attack against the individual. I see nothing productive to be gained in such an atmosphere. If I can't be expected to 'judge' the god of this mythology using the mind that it supposedly gave me, then I'm not going to be able to live up to the full potential of that gift. I've set out my thoughts on this matter and the reasoning behind them, however faulty they may appear to someone steeped in the story.
@G-C: I do accept the apology you gave, maybe I read more into your responses than you intended. Whatever your opinions of me, I can actually be a nice guy (I read a book on it once).
I've always thought we had good discussions, and I did not think of you anything but a decent person. I really hope that we can have good discussions in the future. I did not say you couldn't say what you want to about God, it's just your choice of words you and others use that can put me off at times.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.