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Poll: Regarding your "Sinful Nature"
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Sin is no more real than Santa's workshop at the North Pole.
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Sin does indeed exist and there are eternal consequences for partaking in them.
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Sin, I don't believe in Sin.
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RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin.
(May 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(May 30, 2012 at 1:06 pm)Strongbad Wrote: Speaking of “sin”, I’ve always been curious as to who conceived the notion of sin. I don’t mean the supposed “original sin” purportedly committed by Adam and Eve, I mean who came up with the idea that certain acts were an offence to a god? It would seem to me that if “sin” is just another concept stolen by Christians to incorporate into their religion, then the foundations of Christianity crumble, because isn’t that what “salvation” is all about? Although I suppose that Christians would claim that even if the concept of sin was borrowed from prior religions, that would only mean that prior religions had the concept right, but were just applying to it to the wrong god.

The word seems peculiar to Christianity but the more general notion of taboo is wider spread. Prohibitions rooted in culture and religion are probably everywhere. Besides being the version present in the culture most of us grew up in it is hard to see just what makes sin special.

Lets see .. well sin we're told is universal. It is only expunged by a single instance of human sacrifice. Apparently we are created sinful and cannot free ourselves of sin by our own efforts. However we can be forgiven for sin by the very being who created us to be sinful by nature.

Don't hesitate to correct me if I have any of this wrong. I have only a sense of what anything biblical is about.

"However we can be forgiven for sin by the very being who created us to be sinful by nature."

I thought about explaining it myself, but this is a far better explanation by biblestudyplanet dot com:

It's important to understand that God did not create sin. God created a perfect moral standard and it was his creation - by going against that standard - that created sin. Another point that needs to be established is that God did not create us as sinful: "Truly, this only I have found: That God made man upright [without sin], But they have sought out many schemes." ECCLESIASTES 7:12. But God did create us with "free will". In other words, we were given the right to choose whether or not we would follow God's moral standard. That is what separates us from animals - which have to follow God. The problem is that all of us use our right to free will to rebel.

I thought I might add something as well. To have a choice between good and evil is not evil in itself, but when we have chosen evil, like when Even chose to eat the fruit, we have created a sin.

When Adam and Eve ate the fruit, it opened their eyes to the difference between good and evil. But can she even be guilty of sin if she didn't know the difference to begin with? God gave them only ONE law to live by. Pretty sweet, huh? Walk around naked with your wife in a beautiful garden, and have the ability to communicate with nature. Anyway, if you don't know about a law and you break it, are you guilty? No. They did know what to do and what would happen if they break it.

There's your answer in accordance with Scripture.
Are we essentially evolved spacesuits stupidly assembled by no other reason than to reproduce more of the same stupidly assembled spacesuits that will eventually cease to exist? Clap

It's the devil's way now. There is no way out. You can scream and you can shout. It is too late now. Because you're not there, payin' attention. -Radiohead

Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. -Matthew 5:11
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Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cinjin - May 25, 2012 at 2:05 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by NoMoreFaith - May 25, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cinjin - May 25, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by genkaus - May 26, 2012 at 6:19 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Anomalocaris - May 27, 2012 at 3:17 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Kayenneh - May 25, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ohh EPiC FAiL - May 25, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Jackalope - May 25, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 25, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whateverist - May 25, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whistle Blower - May 25, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Darwinian - May 25, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whistle Blower - May 25, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cinjin - May 25, 2012 at 6:36 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Zen Badger - May 26, 2012 at 7:33 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Paul the Human - May 25, 2012 at 4:19 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 27, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Paul the Human - May 27, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 27, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Tobie - May 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 27, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Tobie - May 27, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 27, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Tobie - May 27, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 27, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by genkaus - May 27, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 27, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Jackalope - May 27, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by genkaus - May 28, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 28, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Jackalope - May 28, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 28, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Jackalope - May 28, 2012 at 12:39 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 28, 2012 at 12:45 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Tempus - May 28, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by elunico13 - May 28, 2012 at 1:08 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by genkaus - May 28, 2012 at 2:02 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by elunico13 - May 28, 2012 at 2:36 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by genkaus - May 28, 2012 at 3:13 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cinjin - May 28, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 28, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 28, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cyberman - May 29, 2012 at 12:54 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whistle Blower - May 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Kayenneh - May 25, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whistle Blower - May 25, 2012 at 4:34 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Kayenneh - May 25, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 25, 2012 at 8:09 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whateverist - May 25, 2012 at 10:08 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whistle Blower - May 26, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Zen Badger - May 27, 2012 at 2:04 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cinjin - May 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by KichigaiNeko - May 26, 2012 at 3:02 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Tempus - May 26, 2012 at 3:14 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Kayenneh - May 26, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by KichigaiNeko - May 26, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Godschild - May 26, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 26, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ohh EPiC FAiL - May 26, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whateverist - May 27, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 27, 2012 at 2:37 am
Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ohh EPiC FAiL - May 27, 2012 at 10:05 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whistle Blower - May 27, 2012 at 3:32 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cinjin - May 27, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Paul the Human - May 27, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Ace Otana - May 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Kayenneh - May 27, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 27, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by elunico13 - May 27, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 27, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by elunico13 - May 27, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by genkaus - May 27, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by elunico13 - May 28, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 27, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cyberman - May 28, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 28, 2012 at 1:09 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 28, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cinjin - May 28, 2012 at 1:52 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 28, 2012 at 2:28 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 28, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by frankiej - May 28, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Ace Otana - May 28, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Faith No More - May 28, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Strongbad - May 30, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Whateverist - May 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 30, 2012 at 6:38 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Faith No More - May 30, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cinjin - May 30, 2012 at 11:40 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by ScienceLovesGod - May 31, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Kayenneh - May 31, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cyberman - May 31, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 31, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by King_Charles - May 31, 2012 at 9:31 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Minimalist - May 31, 2012 at 9:41 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Polaris - June 4, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cyberman - June 4, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Polaris - June 4, 2012 at 8:02 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cyberman - June 4, 2012 at 8:07 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Polaris - June 4, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cyberman - June 4, 2012 at 8:26 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Polaris - June 4, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: Sin, I don't believe in Sin. - by Cinjin - June 22, 2012 at 2:17 pm

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