RE: Why I'm not an Atheist and believe in what I believe.
June 6, 2012 at 5:57 pm
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2012 at 6:01 pm by Mystic.)
(June 6, 2012 at 5:47 pm)Brian37 Wrote:Quote:Assume a Creator exists.
You know what happens when you "assume"? It makes an ass out of u and me.
That is not how good logic works.
Good logic and scientific method for that matter starts with prior established data. Otherwise there are an infinite number of absurdities we as a species can "assume" by default.
The ability to string sentences together and vocalize them and write them down, may make them pretty and popular, but without some sort of quality control of testing and independent verification, wont make them credible.
Think about all the super natural and or deity claims past and present that you do not hold to be true and think about why you reject them. If you are honest enough with yourself and bold enough with yourself, you hopefully will get to the point to understand why I reject your claim as well.
Relax my friend.
It was just to explain that if God exists, then intuitive knowledge of him is not illogical.
That doesn't prove we have knowledge of God nor did I say it did.
(June 6, 2012 at 5:48 pm)Annik Wrote:(June 6, 2012 at 5:37 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: No, but can you elaborate on your point?
Well, we learn morality through social cues, not intuition. Babies aren't born with morals, they are taught to them. This is how our morals are able to evolve (for the most part) with the times. Babies are not born as theists, either. Religion has to be taught to them.
Ok, I see what your saying. You think society decides morals because it's moral or is it moral because society decided it's moral?
Thanks.
(June 6, 2012 at 5:53 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:(June 6, 2012 at 5:36 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: What would be good enough in your view?A more disciplined route or method, such as invoking the phrase "to best of our knowledge" which underlines familiarity, awareness, and/or understanding that's gained through experience and/or study.
While you can still be wrong, its far more reliable than simple intuition, and prevents you from making invalid casual connections and erroneous assumptions about reality.
OK I see, but what if proof of God is not possible through experience or study? What should God do if he exists? How would he make us know himself if he wanted to be known?