RE: Why I'm not an Atheist and believe in what I believe.
June 8, 2012 at 7:27 pm
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2012 at 7:38 pm by Mystic.)
(June 8, 2012 at 7:01 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:(June 8, 2012 at 6:51 pm)Adjusted Sanity Wrote: I don't really see you making any attempt at an argument here. All I see is you calling the tread maker a liar. Doesn't seem like a proper argument.
I don't see much to argue with here anyway. It doesn't seem like he's trying to prove god exists, just tell people why he believes.
Did you somehow miss his unqualified statement that he bases his beliefs on his feelings?
What I see is a wall of verbose assertion-by-assertion and quibbling.
I feel the knowledge that killing a person for leaving his religion, be it a true one or not, is unjustified and wrong. This how I feel. Does it mean my feeling is unjustified without an argument? It has no basis if I can't make a rational argument proving it?
A lot of Muslims could say to me, God knows his laws better, there could be some logic we are unaware of that says you are wrong. Can you prove definitely with valid arguments that we shouldn't kill people leaving the religion? For all you know, it's for the greater good that these laws were applied. This could be that the apostates if no fear of leaving the religion, would influence others, and a domino effect would make people unbelievers. So God wanted out of grace to help save people from hell, to put apostates to death.
What would you say? To me, even if I can't prove it by a rational argument, this feeling of mine that it is wrong, is strong enough and justified, that I believe it's knowledge of it being wrong. I don't have to rationalize it. It's obvious, but it's in a mode of shinning knowledge, not argumentative analysis type.
This is an instance of intuitive knowledge. People should have freedom to chose their beliefs and not be killed for being wrong about it.
I'm not saying there isn't arguments to be made against apostasy laws of Islam, but at the end, most people would oppose not due to this arguments, but to intuitive knowledge. Notice also that, this same intuitive knowledge can be buried deep within a Muslim whom believes in the apostasy laws.
