RE: Why I'm not an Atheist and believe in what I believe.
June 9, 2012 at 9:14 am
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2012 at 9:20 am by Mystic.)
Quote:It makes sense not to kill people, it's something you should know naturally.
This what I was getting at. You know it naturally. Yet many people despite knowing this naturally, also believe otherwise.
(June 9, 2012 at 6:55 am)Tempus Wrote: HO HO HO, PAPA BEAR IS BACK. SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.
Right, now let's get this circus on the road!
(June 8, 2012 at 10:49 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok let's discuss the following two possibilties:
1) God exists.
2) God doesn't exist.
If 1) is true, do you think it's logically possible that God makes us perceive him and know of him intuitively or in properly basic knowledge manner?
If #1 is true, you'd still have your work cut out to make a logical argument that it's possible to know god intuitively. A logical conclusion is reached by a logical argument, which must be both sound and valid to justify said conclusion. Logical arguments can be false though if, for example, they don't take into account relevant information. In such cases it could be because this information constitutes an "unknown unknown" - i.e., a necessary variable which is not only unaccounted for, but it's very existence is outside the scope of current knowledge. Logical arguments are used to determine how justified we are in believing things and aid in discovering new things, but they don't necessarily adhere to reality. I think what I've said here is right, someone correct me if I'm wrong!
For a logical argument about a god to begin to take form we would need some premises which were true to create an argument from; something like "a god exists", for example. If a god exists but we don't know about it we can't make logical arguments about it.
Well to me if God exists, he can give us knowledge of anything he wants. This seems to be a solid premise. Aside from that, if he exists and we are linked to him, it seems possible that we can be aware of this link. Also if the nature of greatness, honour, goodness, all have him as the eternal basis, then I don't see why they wouldn't point to Eternal Basis and Person-hood of God.
I think also if we a spirit/soul, then spiritual knowledge, eyes of the soul, is very possible.
Naturally if God exists, he can create us with knowledge of himself. The knowledge would be based on reality and a link to him.
If God is like the Sun behind the rays of morality, greatness, honour, why shouldn't we able to perceive him?
