(June 9, 2012 at 9:50 am)MysticKnight Wrote:(June 9, 2012 at 6:55 am)Tempus Wrote: What about gods?
A god is just a being worthy of worship.
That doesn't mean anything. Your arguments are getting sloppier and sloppier as they unravel. Your making up your own definitions isn't helping you any, either.
Quote: We already honour some humans to a very high degree. I would not be suprised if God's plan for every creation to to ascend to godhood and beyond.
And you make up qualities for your mythical god as well, fashioning it in your own image (meaning to suit your own proclivities). This is patho-logical as well.
Quote:This would not make the equal to God in anyway. Because God is Ultimate Greatness.
That doesn't mean anything, either. And all this hyperbole fails due to your initial failure to demonstrate that this god you propose exists at all. Without that, anything you use to describe its supposed qualities is just word salad. And patho-logical nonsense.
[quote[To me however it seems logical if God is Ultimate, he is also Ultimate Life. And if he is Ultimate life, there is no life that is really "aside from him" but is rather existing DUE to him. There life is not their own, but that God gives it to them.
This would mean originally, there had to be One Creator.
Does it mean a creation can never reach the level that they deserved to be honored to the level of worship?
No. It depends on you perception of "worship". To me an honourable human can reach the level of godhood. Why? Because his goodness in him has that potential.
Do I know of any "gods" aside from God? No. [/quote]
And all of this word salad falls for the same reasons as well. Waxing poetic about your mythical god's supposed qualities -- which in reality you are making up pathologically on the fly -- is not any sort of evidence that such a being exists. It is simply mental masturbation.
Quote:But a character like Batman if he were to exist, to me, would be a god.
Someone here has a Wall of Shame in their sig line for stupid things theist have said. The above gets my nomination for inclusion.
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(June 9, 2012 at 9:46 am)whateverist Wrote: Good question. Why then are we unable to detect such an entity?
lol but I think we are able to!
Then pull it out and show it to us.
Quote:Well perhaps you mean "we" as "us atheists".
So this is a figment of your imagination, then. QED. You are asserting that our sensory abilities are dependent on whether we believe in fairies or not?
Quote:I am going to go back to my "don't kill apostates" rule.
Why? It is a meaningless red herring.
Quote:Because some Muslims feel the need to follow their scholars and hadiths regarding this issue, they will "bury" that knowledge, but the knowledge is never gone and always shouting at them, whenever they think of the issue.
Pure speculation.
Quote:Now Atheists did an honest mistake in my perspective.
And now to all the fucktards who are claiming that this guy is only talking about his own beliefs and not trying to make his statements apply to everyone: Go fuck yourselves.
Quote:They said "We aren't aware of an analytical proofs of God, no logical argument, so I have no reason to believe".
Did we really? I don't remember saying that. You have evoked a straw man here. And this whole business of "analytical proofs" is a bullshit red herring. What most atheists have rejected your fairy tales on is their utter lack of EVIDENCE. All your "analytical proof" amounts to, in the absence of any direct correlation to evidence, is pure sophistry.
Quote:Then they perceived all those believing in God to do so without knowledge.
Without EVIDENCE. Your assertion of "knowledge" without evidence is pure bullshit.
Quote:Then they lived a long time and got emotionally attached to their decision.
And you know this because you can read all of our minds? This is patho-logical (make-up-as-you-go-along) speculation. In other words, you are bullshitting yourself and now you are attempting to bullshit us with the bullshit you have convinced yourself of (your delusions).
Quote:Now just as "religion" can blind people, for example, some think it's "good" to torture humans for disbelieving in a true religion, due to religion, while deep down inside, they know to be wrong and ugly and evil, the same can be about emotional attachment to "atheism" (non belief in God).
That is just pathological wishful thinking on your part.
Quote:So the knowledge of God to me, that perception is still there, even in Atheists, it's just they have to pull "God's sword" (so to speak) out of the rubble (so to speak).
The capacity to bullshit oneself is certainly there, but in order to overcome it you nee to pull your head (so to speak) out of your ass (so to speak).
Quote:Another issue is that religions like Christianity and Islam paint a very ugly image of God, and once you leave the religion, "God" is that to you, and you feel emotionally against that God.
And so, since you are making up your own version of this gawd anyway, you are going to paint a big smiley face on it.
Quote:Of course, those that mixed knowledge of God with that of indoctrination and religions, and then those chose to rely on religion's concept which was somewhat correct, and somewhat wrong, and relied on the wrong, and buried the correct knowledge, then when indoctrination left...it felt that all the knowledge of God was a delusion. The reason is because THAT god was a delusion.
Just like yours and everyone else's.
Quote:The real God however, the true beauty, the true greatness, is not a delusion.
Have you met it? If your assertions are true, then by all means, pull it out of your pocket and show us its beauty, its greatness, it's big pecker, etc.
Quote:That God is not to be perceived through eyes of religion, but through the eyes of the soul unshackled from pressure of religion.
One who is unshackled from religion doesn't have any use for your made-up gawds.