(June 12, 2012 at 3:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: No He did not, Lucifer had free will, Lucifer allowed his mind to conceive He could be greater than his Creator, Lucifer acted upon those wrong notions, and he is Satan with a bunch of fallen angels he has power over.
And Muhammad rode a winged horse up to heaven. It's the 21st century and we still have mind numbed people insisting that mythology is true.
Quote: God will ultimately destroy him
Well, what the fuck is he waiting for? People like you have been promising this for thousands of years! I hope you realize your credibility is kind of shot.
Quote:, it was not God's will that Lucifer fall, it was Lucifer's will that caused him to fall, if Lucifer had done God's will none of this would have happened.
But wasn't this all part of "God's plan"? Because no matter how horrible something is, believers are quick to trumpet that "everything happens for a reason" and "it's part of God's plan".
Quote:You want to blame God for the way things turned out,
Isn't this god the one who has unlimited power and omniscience? Which means he KNEW what would happen and he did nothing to stop it. So, yeah, I can blame him.
Quote: it's Lucifer that you should blame.
Actually, I don't blame imaginary beings for anything. That would be like blaming Santa Claus because I didn't get what I wanted for Christmas.
Quote:It's funny in a way and pitiful in others, atheist call christians stupid and deluded,
Oh, I wouldn't necessarily say you're stupid....
Quote:yet we are the ones that are intelligent enough to know who to blame.
And who should we blame?
Quote: Ourselves for falling to the great deceiver, the father of lies, Lucifer.
Sorry, never met the guy.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?