(June 12, 2012 at 8:42 pm)Napoleon Wrote:(June 12, 2012 at 2:38 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: if 21% of atheists are supposed to believe in gods according to this survey. A group who by definition do not believe in god. Then the other results look rather suspect.
Lol that post should go down in history as one of the most stupid, crazy and outright bullshit posts ever on this forum.
Hey, Aiza is just the messenger, taking those findings as saying something about atheists instead of saying something about the survey is where she goes wrong.
There are some possible confounding factors in the survey: given the number of atheists who meditate, as indicated on the survey, I suspect that some of people who identified as atheists are Buddhists who consider themselves atheists despite believing in the existence of minor gods. I suppose between the bare-bones Buddhist who really rejects the supernatural aspects of Buddhism and the slightly-more supernaturalist Buddhist there's a grey area that may be causing confusion.
Also, given some of the whoppers I've heard about atheists from evangelicals, it seems there are a lot of people who think atheists are people who do drugs, fornicate, or worship the devil while not going to church, so if they're doing that they may think that makes them atheists. Twice I've had people who find out I'm an atheist ask me if that means I worship the devil.
So I think there are people who consider themselves atheists who aren't clear on the concept. The best way to determine if someone is an atheist on a survey is to ask if the person believes God really exists and if they answer 'no', check them off as an atheist.