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Science + Creation
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RE: Science + Creation
(June 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm)Aiza Wrote: So lets see, he hid Jewish people in the Vatican, arranged for emergency passports for many more, expressly condemned anti-Semitism and genocide on mutliple occasions, ordered clergy to do whatever they could to help Jewish people, and authored the very first condmenation of Nazi Germany by any major institution (at a time when he had many supporters in the US). All this while engulfed by facist Italy at the same time. And it already was a sin for Catholics to "slaughter" anyone, mind, and going against the Church results in automatic excommunication, so um....either you are being rather dishonest or whatever site you copy+pasted that from is being rather dishonest (as if it wasn't already for accusing Pope Pius XII for not speaking out at Kristallnacht, ffs) .

But, the pope never excommunicated Hitler, did he? So, how serious was the condemnation? Why does this sadly remind me of a three card monte game? Who has control of the cards?

Why should the vicar of christ be worried about his proximity to the Itallian state during WWII? Being the vicar of christ comes with revelatory power, so was he more concerned with the then current geopolitical concerns or was he doing the lord's bidding? Surely, the vicar of christ would not have to concern himself with a little local conflageration, right?

All I have to do now is sit back and wait for your 'mysterious ways' defence.
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Science + Creation - by FallentoReason - June 2, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 2, 2012 at 3:14 am
RE: Science + Creation - by FallentoReason - June 2, 2012 at 3:23 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 2, 2012 at 3:27 am
RE: Science + Creation - by FallentoReason - June 2, 2012 at 4:01 am
RE: Science + Creation - by toro - June 3, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Godschild - June 20, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Zen Badger - June 20, 2012 at 5:36 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Godschild - June 20, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Zen Badger - June 21, 2012 at 6:08 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 20, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Angrboda - June 21, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Thor - June 21, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 20, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Angrboda - June 2, 2012 at 3:37 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 2, 2012 at 8:26 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Panglossian - June 2, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 2, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 2, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Reforged - June 2, 2012 at 9:36 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Drich - June 2, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Thor - June 5, 2012 at 10:45 am
RE: Science + Creation - by FallentoReason - June 3, 2012 at 11:53 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Drich - June 3, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 3, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 3, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Polaris - June 4, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 4, 2012 at 8:45 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Drich - June 5, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: Science + Creation - by orogenicman - June 5, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Angrboda - June 5, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 7, 2012 at 12:13 am
RE: Science + Creation - by FallentoReason - June 7, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 7, 2012 at 9:21 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 7, 2012 at 11:39 am
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 7, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Faith No More - June 7, 2012 at 10:55 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 7, 2012 at 11:42 am
RE: Science + Creation - by libalchris - June 7, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 8, 2012 at 8:46 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Thor - June 8, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 8, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Thor - June 8, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 8, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Cato - June 9, 2012 at 1:44 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 9, 2012 at 10:27 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by downbeatplumb - June 10, 2012 at 7:08 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 8, 2012 at 4:50 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 8, 2012 at 10:40 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 9, 2012 at 6:11 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by FallentoReason - June 9, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 9, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 10, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 10, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 10, 2012 at 1:29 am
RE: Science + Creation - by cratehorus - June 10, 2012 at 12:22 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Zen Badger - June 10, 2012 at 7:35 am
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 10, 2012 at 9:25 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Angrboda - June 11, 2012 at 1:23 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 11, 2012 at 2:06 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Angrboda - June 11, 2012 at 5:42 am
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 11, 2012 at 8:17 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 11, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by downbeatplumb - June 11, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 11, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 11, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 11, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 11, 2012 at 5:21 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 12, 2012 at 1:58 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Angrboda - June 12, 2012 at 2:06 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 12, 2012 at 3:06 am
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2012 at 9:11 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 12, 2012 at 10:08 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Angrboda - June 13, 2012 at 2:12 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 12, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 13, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: Science + Creation - by FallentoReason - June 13, 2012 at 2:52 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Angrboda - June 13, 2012 at 3:00 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 13, 2012 at 10:36 am
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 13, 2012 at 11:42 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Cato - June 14, 2012 at 12:43 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Reforged - June 17, 2012 at 12:45 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Aiza - June 17, 2012 at 2:20 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Cato - June 17, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 13, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 13, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by The Grand Nudger - June 13, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Angrboda - June 14, 2012 at 12:15 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Adjusted Sanity - June 17, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Science + Creation - by downbeatplumb - June 17, 2012 at 6:32 am
RE: Science + Creation - by downbeatplumb - June 20, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 20, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Godschild - June 21, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 22, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Epimethean - June 20, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Tempus - June 21, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 21, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Science + Creation - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2012 at 12:55 pm

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