What makes you think I wouldn't question what you entered as your beliefs?
Not just here but on every website when people post their beliefs even if just in their profile, I find it odd that they would comment on the beliefs of others and then expect hands off on their own.
If you don't want your beliefs questioned then don't even open yourself up to question by even stating them in your profile for people to see.
I think it cruel to grow up or be raised in a society that sets up taboos. It sets the person up who expects "hands off" to not deal well with conflict. The world is not all peaches and cream. Deal with it as it is and dont expect it to conform to you.
And give me one good reason why I should not question your beliefs stated in your profile or that of any other person here, or on any other website?
In life outside the net you do one of two things, you can cower and run and hide, or your can stand up for yourself. If someone challenges you, you don't have to adapt that person's position, but it is an OPPORTUNITY to learn, and if you are wrong, you can look at it as a positive learning experience.
What should be more important to ANYONE, protecting one's own ego, or the ability to learn something new?
I am not trying to destroy anyone here, but at a minimum face them with the fact of reality that EVERYONE in life is going to hear and see things that they may not like. It happens in life even outside the net. How you deal with it is important.
Even if you or her keep your beliefs your entire lives you at least grow by the debate and you also learn to accept that people will not always agree with you.
But no one here or even in real life deserves to demand that their personal beliefs not be questioned. That is the quickest way to hurt yourself and society in general.
I would suggest to both of you again, be brave, face your fears, don't look at it as a literal "us vs them" "you hate me" conflict. Look at what I do here and what most atheists do here in nothing more than a debate. It may be messy and ugly sometimes, but it is NOT personal.
I wrote a poem once about what it would be like if I debated Thomas Jefferson. And in if I could have debated him on his generic god, I would have said "bullshit" to him too, and that is a man whose thoughts and laws I ADMIRED. And considering he said "question with boldness" I think his response to me wouldn't be "YOU HATE ME', but "why do you think my claim is "bullshit".
I admire more someone who is willing to be honest with me than someone who expects me in every situation to walk on eggshells.
And again, although I do hate the concept as a claim, the idea of ANY and all religions, I would have to isolate myself on an island and never talk to anyone if I hated all the people who made claims that I did not like, including my own mother. No matter how much I might hate a persons claim, I do not hate THAT particular person just because they may make SOME claims I don't like.
So don't she should not fear me and she should not be afraid of conflict, especially when we are NOT talking about life or death in being here or in posting here. No one is going to die if they hear or read things that might make them uncomfortable.
Not just here but on every website when people post their beliefs even if just in their profile, I find it odd that they would comment on the beliefs of others and then expect hands off on their own.
If you don't want your beliefs questioned then don't even open yourself up to question by even stating them in your profile for people to see.
I think it cruel to grow up or be raised in a society that sets up taboos. It sets the person up who expects "hands off" to not deal well with conflict. The world is not all peaches and cream. Deal with it as it is and dont expect it to conform to you.
And give me one good reason why I should not question your beliefs stated in your profile or that of any other person here, or on any other website?
In life outside the net you do one of two things, you can cower and run and hide, or your can stand up for yourself. If someone challenges you, you don't have to adapt that person's position, but it is an OPPORTUNITY to learn, and if you are wrong, you can look at it as a positive learning experience.
What should be more important to ANYONE, protecting one's own ego, or the ability to learn something new?
I am not trying to destroy anyone here, but at a minimum face them with the fact of reality that EVERYONE in life is going to hear and see things that they may not like. It happens in life even outside the net. How you deal with it is important.
Even if you or her keep your beliefs your entire lives you at least grow by the debate and you also learn to accept that people will not always agree with you.
But no one here or even in real life deserves to demand that their personal beliefs not be questioned. That is the quickest way to hurt yourself and society in general.
I would suggest to both of you again, be brave, face your fears, don't look at it as a literal "us vs them" "you hate me" conflict. Look at what I do here and what most atheists do here in nothing more than a debate. It may be messy and ugly sometimes, but it is NOT personal.
I wrote a poem once about what it would be like if I debated Thomas Jefferson. And in if I could have debated him on his generic god, I would have said "bullshit" to him too, and that is a man whose thoughts and laws I ADMIRED. And considering he said "question with boldness" I think his response to me wouldn't be "YOU HATE ME', but "why do you think my claim is "bullshit".
I admire more someone who is willing to be honest with me than someone who expects me in every situation to walk on eggshells.
And again, although I do hate the concept as a claim, the idea of ANY and all religions, I would have to isolate myself on an island and never talk to anyone if I hated all the people who made claims that I did not like, including my own mother. No matter how much I might hate a persons claim, I do not hate THAT particular person just because they may make SOME claims I don't like.
So don't she should not fear me and she should not be afraid of conflict, especially when we are NOT talking about life or death in being here or in posting here. No one is going to die if they hear or read things that might make them uncomfortable.
