Cutting the head off Medusa

[Brian37]

So the bible is to blame for the wrongful attack on him and only the supporters of that book would have attacked him, so if it was not the church then who? Churches are made up of club members. So again you have an example of the gang members saying "my boss isn't doing this, we are doing it on behalf of our boss".

Good point. I'll have to look into this some more when I can.

And that also brings up a broader topic on all holy books in general.

If there were no book to fight over either way, this wouldn't have happened.

But since holy books do exist and can be read to justify a position, it should give everyone all the more reason to question it's credibility.

Holy books are weapons and must always be treated as such.

They're only weapons in the wrong hands.

I totally disagree because everyone thinks the other is the "wrong hands". It is and will always be a weapon.

Do you seriously think that a right wing baptists thinks that a bible in the hands of a liberal Catholic is the "right hands" or vice versa?

You still are stuck with the POINT OF VIEW of who gets to decide whose hands are the right hands and everybody thinks they are the right hands.

It will always be this way with books no one will ever agree on how to interpret.

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Another example of why holy books are weapons.

Martin Luther King many would claim, is an example of "the bible in the right hands". First off you don't have to believe in a god to know that blacks shouldn't have ever gone through what they did. But that same book was used by white Christians to justify slavery and the oppression during the civil rights movement. King IS one of my heros, but that does not make his god real.

Now why do I still call it a weapon, after all he did do good? I live in the state of North Carolina which the majority of people BOTH black and white AND a majority of Christians BOTH BLACK AND WHITE, despite the lesson that was supposed to be taught by King, are using that same bible INCLUDING BLACKS to ban gay marriage.

When I went into vote against that ban, the best a black man could say, who was sitting outside, and one old enough to know what separate bathrooms were, could only muster the strength to say "vote your conscious". He could not say, "Yea it is wrong" because he grew up with even blacks who condemned homosexuality.

Which proves my point long term. Saying that religion does good does not make the god real and it does not mean in the future that all bad things will stop being justified by ANY holy book.

Doing good does not require being a Muslim or Jew or atheist and for every good a person does it does not mean a label is responsible or that because they do good the gods they claim are real.

King was a great man, not because of his religion and not because his god was real. He was a great man because of his ability to do the right thing and all of us are capable of that. If that black man who said "vote your conscious" was doing the right thing he wouldn't have said that he would have said "Yea, the ban is wrong".