(June 17, 2012 at 2:20 am)Aiza Wrote: It's hardly needed, excommunication is latae sententiae in the case of heresy so Hitler was certainly excommunicated the second he went off with positive Christianity and such. Excommunication is a medicinal penalty as well, so I am not sure what you think that it would do.
Now as for the rest of your post:
1) No, the Vicar of Christ has no "revelatory power". The age of general revelation ended with the Age of the Apostles.
2) Being surrounded by fascist Italy puts the people of Vatican city in a rather precarious position because the Swiss Guard isn't exactly a modern military. That being said I think Venerable Pope Pius XII did quite a lot, I only mentioned this fact because in spite of that, he hid many Jewish people in the Vatican, arranged for emergency passports for many more, condemned anti-Semitism and genocide, ordered clergy to do whatever they could to help Jewish people, and authored the very first condmenation of Nazi Germany by any major institution.
There have been hateful and wicked Popes through history, I have no idea why some anti-Catholics are so desperate to jump on Venerable Pope Pius XII of all people. He is personally one of my favorite Popes.
3) "Mysterious ways" has nothing to do with any of it. What part of this is mysterious to you?
No revelation. In this case at least catholics are honest regarding the infallibility of their leader in matters of faith; meaning that it is just the opinion (considered or whim) of the guy that was politically powerful enough to attain the post.
The latae sententiae defense is a poor attempt to save face. Hitler goes about trying to exterminate an entire race and the pope maintains a ricdiulous policy of neutrality, yet Margaret McBride was excommunicated for allowing an abortion at 11 weeks when the death of the mother was almost certain (pulmonary hypertension).
I did not claim mysterious ways, I was anticipating it as an argument since it is commonly roled out when someone of faith is defending the indefensible.