RE: Are cats atheists?
July 21, 2012 at 9:27 am
(This post was last modified: July 21, 2012 at 9:30 am by Jeffonthenet.)
(July 20, 2012 at 1:17 am)MysticKnight Wrote:(July 20, 2012 at 1:06 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: I disbelieved it, but I think I did so for reasons and not just the absence of reasons.
That's fine, but disbelieving it based on absence of evidence is fine as well.
Not necessarily. Everytime there is an absence of evidence it is not always the case that we should disbelieve something.
Quote:Quote:It seems to me that they disbelieved it for a reason. The reason is that they don't see enough evidence to believe. However, this reason, that there is not enough evidence to believe, is up for debate, and itself seems to need rational warrant as it is not self-evident as 1+1=2.
Well they can disbelieve in it if they aren't convinced of God existing when presented with the concept. Usually people don't dismiss an idea, without seeing if there is an evidence. Atheists usually did look up evidence for God and found them to be unconvincing. Whether they are convincing to you or to others, is a different matter. Whether they are sound arguments is another issue.
Because there is not evidence for X, it doesn't necessarily follow that one should disbelieve X. Only if there is another premise in the argument like, "there is no evidence for X, and if X were true, we would expect more evidence than there is for X." However, this is not just an absence of evidence then. There is a claim here.
Quote:But Atheists are allowed to make mistakes like all humans, and if they are unconvinced, they are unconvinced.
I don't think that they would consider atheism a "mistake."
Quote:Most Theists don't believe on God based on arguments and are not informed of philosophical or scientific arguments for a Creator. They simply believing without knowing why they do.
Just because they do not believe based on some argument doesn't mean they do so irrationally or ignorantly.
(July 20, 2012 at 1:20 am)aleialoura Wrote:(July 20, 2012 at 1:06 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: He has given me a new heart and experience of satisfaction beyond even words can explain fully. He has forgiven my sins and made a way for me to access Him by the faith he gives to me.
It's all in your head. Don't you think that all the people who have or do believe in other gods feel the same way? Just not about your particular god. It's you who has had the change of attitude, and you who have satisfied yourself. The fact that you did it by believing in some imaginary sky father is relevant, I suppose, and speaks to your character... but which imaginary sky father is completely irrelevant.
How do you know? I am one of the most skeptical people out there.
(July 20, 2012 at 2:04 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:From the fact that there are many of X fabricated, it doesn't follow that all X are fabricated.
Ahhhhh...... and I bet you think that YOUR god is the special one, huh?
Yes
"the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate" (1 Cor. 1:19)