RE: Actions versus Consequences
July 23, 2012 at 7:23 am
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2012 at 7:37 am by Reforged.)
(July 23, 2012 at 6:33 am)jonb Wrote:(July 23, 2012 at 12:48 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Expecting isn't it. Results do emerge from actions. It has nothing to do with religion. You have mistaken a query in cause and effect for one in religion and the meaning of life. Society classes actions as good and bad, morality isn't a religious issue. Its a human one that we as a species define and redefine constantly.
Like I said; lets keep this grounded in reality.
Does society class things correctly? Why should I conform to a cultural norm, did I or was that you, who knows, who is going to be the umpire? As you have set an absolute 'results do emerge from actions' you have your own point of view with which to examine your reality.
No they don't, not all the time but if I rob a homeless guy I'm generally classed as a dickhead. If I give money to the homeless guy I'm generally classed as being generous. These are basic moral judgements in action that have been for a very, very long time and show no signs of changing any time soon. The effects of robbing mean I'm alittle bit richer but I risk losing respect, the effects of giving money are that I'm abit poorer but I might gain some respect.
Results *do* emerge from actions, even unintentional ones. Just living, breathing in and out, eating, drinking, going to the toilet. None of these are moral actions or even notable actions but they do have results even if those results themselves aren't notable. This is very basic stuff. Look up "The Butterfly Effect". The theory, not the film.
That isn't me stating any moral absolutes, that is me being factual. Now if your views differ radically from societies in this regard then please, don't spare any details.
I mean seriously? This is the part your debating? Did I miss a meeting?
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