RE: Where do you rate on Dawkins scale?
July 25, 2012 at 1:01 am
(This post was last modified: July 25, 2012 at 1:18 am by Godscreated.)
(July 25, 2012 at 12:36 am)jackman Wrote: that was almost a good analogy, except for the fact that wind is tangible, can be measured and enough of it can take your trailer right off the blocks. welll, not *yours* per se, but i'm jussayin.
Wind can do a lot of damage but you still can't see it only it's actions.
(July 25, 2012 at 12:35 am)Epimethean Wrote: He uses that most incredible tool of theists: Desperation!
Knowing God is real takes the desperation out of my life!
(July 25, 2012 at 12:32 am)Shell B Wrote: Yes, but we know the wind is the wind because it is described because of its actions. Things you attribute to god can be attributed to other things. Also, mathematics can give us an idea of what a lot of the universe is like fundamentally. What do you use to measure god?
Math could have never given us the beauty of the universe like Hubble's pics have. God's action in others is described, it can be known through the scriptures and God's non-action can also be described in others by their actions, things that are also described in the scriptures, see Paul's epistles.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
