RE: Mass shootings a question for atheists.
July 26, 2012 at 12:08 pm
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2012 at 12:12 pm by Godscreated.)
(July 26, 2012 at 9:49 am)Brian37 Wrote:(July 26, 2012 at 2:13 am)Godschild Wrote: Vile according to what the majority of people see as vile. I did not say I would agree with someone utilizing a tragedy to promote their beliefs, I was talking about everyday life.
Look, this is not a theist vs atheist issue. This is a double standard issue that even atheists fall for.
AGAIN, even some atheists say "When they wear a cross, or put up a cross after a tragedy, many don't assume it is an advertisement, and I agree most of the time it is simply mourning.
BUT why do atheists accept that they shouldn't do the same? If Christian is capable of displaying what they are and we can accept at that moument it is not political or an agenda, why should their be a double standard, why should we not be able to do the same?
I think any atheist or theists who thinks there is no double standard is fooling themselves. Name me one public tragedy where we see atheist displays or invite an atheist to speak at a memorial?
When they do it, it is not political, but if we do it, it is? Are atheists a separate species incapable mourning? Are we incapable of extending our empathy even to believers at such a time?
If we are, AND WE ARE, then my intent and only agenda in this post is to get both believers and atheists to accept that we are equal and are the same species.
We all are the same, their are no differences between a believer and a nonbeliever, I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion I believed there was a difference. Tell me why do you believe that atheist can not put up a cross for the purpose of mourning, Christians do because it's a symbol of their beliefs, the cross is not exclusive to Christians as you say yourself so use it if that helps you mourn.
The people who ask a pastor to speak at a memorial do it for their own reasons, I have no control over that. I would say that there was no preacher at Hitchen's funeral. I would think many appropriate atheist symbols were displayed at his funeral and even some crosses if they were allowed.
(July 26, 2012 at 2:40 am)padraic Wrote:
Vile: a lot of what you described. Personally I do not like to see Christ nailed to a cross displayed on tee-shirts, though my reasons would be different from yours.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.