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Atheists= intelligent?
RE: Atheists= intelligent?
S-Truth wrote:
Quote: Just keep repeating that I am a irrational person maybe you'll start believing in that eventually. They say repittion is one of the best ways to make one believe in something that is not true.
You say this however you have repeatedly asked me this same question :
(October 31, 2008 at 2:53 pm)S_Truth Wrote: Ultimately why are we born if we die at the end.
And yet I have already answered this several times, I'll have to repeat myself again because you are asking exactly the same question and all I can do is give you my best answer, which I have already given several times. Ok I'll try and make myself very clear and go into more detail, I'll also give a short version of the answer afterwards. Try and understand what I have already answered this time: We are born because of our parents and if you mean why does life and living things including humans exist in the first place, then basically I will say that there isn't a reason. Why does there have to be one? Its just in human nature that we have evolved to think everything has an intention behind it. This is called the intentional stance. We can transcend it, but it can be difficult to do so sometimes because it is counter-intuitive to our evolved human nature. The intentional stance is important for human survival. Atleast it was in particular back in the 'stone age' and also probably back in prehistoric human times aswell.
Now, if you agree with me or merely if you understand what I believe, I shall say that since this is all natural and there is no real "Why?" to the existence of the universe, living things and therefore of course also including us humans, then it doesn't mean all the mystery is gone. It just means that we try to research and unlock the mysteries of life rather than settling with just "living in mystery" and it also means that the question to ask, and the curious wonder to have, is to ask "How?" instead of "Why?.
Ok to conlude with the short version of the answer, I will quote you again first:
(October 31, 2008 at 2:53 pm)S_Truth Wrote: Ultimately why are we born if we die at the end.
There is no reason. We should ask "How?" instead of "Why?" because there is no ultimate purpose and no intention behind the universe besides intelligent beings such as ourselves.
(October 31, 2008 at 7:45 pm)S_Truth Wrote: Thats all i wanted to prove and i proved my point so i see no further reason to stick around. Logical, open minded, and nothing is impossible. Ponder over that if you have the ability to, if not develop it.
Yes nothing is impossible, but that doesn't mean everything is probable. Or anything you desire to believe in is probable. Nor does it mean everything is equiprobable.
This seems to me like a case of the sort of thing Richard Dawkins was referring to when he said the following: "There's this thing called being so open-minded your brains drop out.".
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Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - September 20, 2008 at 4:35 am
RE: Atheists= intellegent? - by Darwinian - September 20, 2008 at 6:38 am
RE: Atheists= intellegent? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2008 at 7:04 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - September 21, 2008 at 4:03 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by lukec - September 22, 2008 at 1:40 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2008 at 7:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - September 22, 2008 at 10:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Alan - September 25, 2008 at 6:32 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Kyuuketsuki - October 27, 2008 at 6:32 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2008 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Kyuuketsuki - October 28, 2008 at 5:37 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 2:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by josef rosenkranz - October 24, 2008 at 2:15 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2008 at 4:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 8:09 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Bungy - October 24, 2008 at 7:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2008 at 9:18 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by ManofGOD - October 28, 2008 at 3:21 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 28, 2008 at 4:03 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 5:10 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 25, 2008 at 6:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2008 at 6:42 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - October 27, 2008 at 8:14 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2008 at 8:30 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 3:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2008 at 9:04 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 11:06 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2008 at 12:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 12:40 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2008 at 12:58 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by josef rosenkranz - October 30, 2008 at 2:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2008 at 6:42 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 12:15 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by josef rosenkranz - October 31, 2008 at 1:20 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 1:41 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 1:44 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 2:14 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 2:53 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 3:23 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 1:51 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 30, 2008 at 3:10 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 11:50 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 11:55 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:01 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 4:45 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 11:51 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 11:56 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:00 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:08 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 1:20 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:02 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:34 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:40 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:48 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:57 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 1:06 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 1:02 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 1:13 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 1:21 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 2:08 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Kyuuketsuki - February 25, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:06 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 3:30 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:17 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 4:29 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:52 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 5:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 4:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:56 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 4:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:01 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:19 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:38 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:43 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:58 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:03 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 6:05 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:09 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:13 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:18 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 6:18 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:19 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:24 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 6:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:27 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 6:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:31 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:33 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:37 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 6:41 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:46 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 6:56 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:43 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:52 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:04 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:13 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:39 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:42 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 10:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:33 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:45 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:46 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:48 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:49 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:53 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 10:43 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - February 25, 2009 at 6:30 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - February 25, 2009 at 6:59 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - February 27, 2009 at 5:45 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by padraic - February 26, 2009 at 9:27 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Tiberius - February 26, 2009 at 9:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by padraic - February 27, 2009 at 12:34 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Overmars - April 9, 2009 at 3:47 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - April 10, 2009 at 7:23 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Tiberius - April 10, 2009 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - April 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - April 12, 2009 at 12:58 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - April 13, 2009 at 7:44 am

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