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the Arab Spring
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RE: the Arab Spring
Quote:The middle east has always been a mess.
I don't see that ending any time soon.
Religion and tribalism are too entrenched.

Quote:An enlightenment sort of situation is unlikely in that the field is no longer wide open, and the barrier to entry is higher. The best we could expect is a quick game of catch-up. That would be refreshing, to see civilization return to of of it's oldest bastions.

Quote:Straight down the islamist crapper.

if that does happen, I'll just dump the place & start a family in the middle of nowhere, I don't want to place all my eggs in one basket, but its the only available basket.


Quote:Given how much Egypt relies on tourism, the Islamists may cripple the economy if they do, as some media claim, ban bikinis.

Libya will be ok. They have oil, elected in a liberal, so they should do ok. The Islamists did crap in their elections, which whilst surprising, was fantastic.


The Muslim Brotherhood are indeed parasites. They jumped on the uprisings and claimed them as Islamic uprisings when they were democratic uprisings.

Agreed, Egypt relies on tourism & Cinema, & since they're not as big on oil as Saudi Arabia, they can't afford to lose their biggest income machines.

the two biggest political opposition parties in bahrain are Al Wefaq National Islamic Society & National Democratic Action Society.

Al-Wefaq sometimes scare me, its true that they're not for banning women from running for elections or voting, & they're anti-Muslim brotherhood, but they have "Islamic" in their name, & that's scary enough.
I guess its because they already declared that they don't want Bahrain to be an Islamic state & that they're working with other left wing parties that makes me untrust them less.
their leader is Ali Salman:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Salman

the other one is also known as Wa'ad, they're a leftist & liberal party, I don't agree with some of their views, but I trust them to demand a secular state, I also trust them more because their members aren't from a certain sect, they have Sunni & Shiite members as well as closeted atheists.
their leader is Ibrahim Sharif, currently serving 5 years on bogus charges:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Sharif_Al-Sayed

they have a weirdly good relationship, one of them is a left wing party while the other one is a right wing party, yet they're in very good terms & they support each other in elections, I guess its because they've been fighting the government for decades together & that's why they're in good terms.

another public figure is Nabeel Rajab, the president of the Bahrain center for human rights, he's also a member of other human rights organization, what makes him very well liked is that he doesn't align himself with anybody, he speaks of the human rights violations in Bahrain & the demands of the people & stops there, he's currently serving three months for tweeting something the government doesn't like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabeel_Rajab

since Nabeel Rajab's arrest, the new president for BCHR is Zainab Al-Khawaja, daughter of co-founder Abdulhadi Al-Khawaja.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zainab_Al_khawaja

other known activists are:

Munira Fakhro, a women's rights activists:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munira_Fakhro

Lamees Dhaif, a journalist that's been a pain on the government's ass for years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamees_Dhaif

Abdulhadi al-Khawaja, co-founder of BCHR, currently serving a life sentence for bogus charges:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulhadi_al-Khawaja


I'll post a few videos & articles later.
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Messages In This Thread
the Arab Spring - by Bahraini - July 30, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: the Arab Spring - by downbeatplumb - July 30, 2012 at 12:28 pm
RE: the Arab Spring - by jonb - July 30, 2012 at 3:32 pm
RE: the Arab Spring - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2012 at 6:05 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by jonb - August 1, 2012 at 6:38 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: the Arab Spring - by Minimalist - July 30, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RE: the Arab Spring - by Anomalocaris - July 30, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: the Arab Spring - by 5thHorseman - July 30, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: the Arab Spring - by Bahraini - July 31, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: the Arab Spring - by 5thHorseman - August 1, 2012 at 5:01 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by Bahraini - August 1, 2012 at 7:58 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2012 at 6:44 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by jonb - August 1, 2012 at 7:19 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by KichigaiNeko - August 1, 2012 at 9:38 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by KichigaiNeko - August 1, 2012 at 7:09 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by KichigaiNeko - August 1, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: the Arab Spring - by Cato - August 1, 2012 at 11:19 am

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