Finding Out [Whoever] Believes in God

[CliveStaples]

That's really all you had to type to mirror my suggestion a conservative is more likely (by a factor of five times, as you have it) of making bad religious policy, as I believe that any policy which promotes religion in any way is bad policy, and a pool of conservatives is, again according to you, five times as likely to produce people to push for it as an equal number of liberals.

That was just an example. Are you really trying to extend the particular ratios I gave into the real world???

Of course not. You're free to dispute it. It is worth noting that you have not done so. Am I to assume tacit agreement, then?

I challenged your assertion. You refused to provide evidence. That's a tacit concession. I don't have to disprove unevidenced claims.

What is the objective number I have to provide?

You could figure it out from the central limit theorem. What is the size of the population that you're attempting to measure?

Yes, they did all crash and burn. That they all launched campaigns of many months, each earning millions of primary votes and millions of dollars, suggests quite well how Republicans reacted. It doesn't matter that these five lost. The guy who won is every bit as bad.

And that shows how people reacted specifically to the candidates' views on same-sex marriage?

Fair enough, it does not prove that particular point. Perhaps I would have better stated that Republicans are far more likely to be proud of etc. Which is every bit as important, really.

Do you mean that the likelihood that a person who thinks homosexuals are subhuman is more likely to be proud of it if he is conservative than if he is liberal?

What evidence do you have that the 'violent torture and rape' you indicate is specifically directed at the victim because of their homosexuality, and not because of any other reason at all?

I don't. It was a hypothetical counterexample. Just assume that the evidence exists.

Are you arguing that a liberal is more likely to sexually assault a homosexual on principle? That's a rather amazing claim to make. Didn't you just lecture me about making unfounded statements?

It wasn't a real-world example. It merely highlights that there are factors other than "support of same-sex marriage" for measuring whether a group considers homosexuals subhuman.

You understand what a hypothetical is, right? If I say, "Suppose that Barack Obama murdered someone, and you knew about it," your response shouldn't be, "OMG YOU ARE ACCUSING THE PRESIDENT OF MURDER YOU BETTER BACK THAT UP WITH EVIDENCE"

I absolutely refuse to accept any self-serving justification for the willful denial of equal rights to another human being on the basis of their sexuality. I consider that, unequivocally, to be contemptuous and wicked behavior one only practices against people they claim to be inferior human beings. It is irrelevant if the bigot denies his bigotry.

Pedophiles? Rapists?

What if someone isn't denying equal rights to another human being, but merely opposes same-sex marriage? You're assuming that same-sex marriage is a matter of equal rights, but that's precisely one of the issues in contention.