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Pascal's wager
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RE: Pascal's wager
(August 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(August 1, 2012 at 6:58 pm)WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth Wrote: Pascal formulated the wager within a Christian framework.

I completely understand the wager was formulated within a Christian framework, which is the main reason why it fails. It ignores other gods.

Quote:1."God is, or He is not"
2.A Game is being played... where heads or tails will turn up.
3.According to reason, you can defend either of the propositions.
4.You must wager. (It's not optional.)
5.Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
6.Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. (...) There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain.

Yes, these steps are a perfect explanation on why PW fails. It is a false dichotomy.

The existence of the Christian God is not 50/50, so it is not a the same as a coin toss. The coin has an infinite number of sides.

Two sides, one christianity, one no god. Thats my point. He wasn't concerned with other religions.
Atheism is a non-prophet organisation. - A dusty old book that I found that must be completely true because someone wrote it down.
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Pascal's wager - by GodlessGirl - July 23, 2012 at 7:32 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Erinome - July 23, 2012 at 7:38 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Faith No More - July 23, 2012 at 8:16 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by GodlessGirl - July 23, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2012 at 8:25 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Erinome - July 23, 2012 at 8:52 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Creed of Heresy - July 23, 2012 at 10:49 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Rhizomorph13 - July 23, 2012 at 10:55 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Creed of Heresy - July 23, 2012 at 10:59 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Rhizomorph13 - July 23, 2012 at 11:02 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Creed of Heresy - July 23, 2012 at 11:03 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by jonb - July 23, 2012 at 11:13 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Creed of Heresy - July 23, 2012 at 11:19 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Cato - July 23, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Norfolk And Chance - July 23, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Angrboda - July 23, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by LastPoet - July 23, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Annik - July 23, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Minimalist - July 23, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Annik - July 23, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2012 at 5:07 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Anomalocaris - July 23, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Anomalocaris - July 23, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Angrboda - July 23, 2012 at 6:08 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Anomalocaris - July 23, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Cato - July 23, 2012 at 9:48 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Raskolnikov - July 29, 2012 at 7:50 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by MysticKnight - July 23, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Skepsis - July 23, 2012 at 5:05 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by liam - July 23, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by CliveStaples - July 24, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by MysticKnight - July 24, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Rhizomorph13 - July 24, 2012 at 12:33 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by CliveStaples - July 29, 2012 at 12:47 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by jonb - July 29, 2012 at 3:55 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by MysticKnight - July 29, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by CliveStaples - July 29, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Darth - July 29, 2012 at 3:51 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Minimalist - July 29, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by liam - July 29, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Epimethean - July 31, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Rhizomorph13 - July 31, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - July 31, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Epimethean - July 31, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Rhizomorph13 - July 31, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Epimethean - July 31, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by jonb - July 31, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Epimethean - July 31, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by jonb - July 31, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Rhizomorph13 - July 31, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Simon Moon - August 1, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth - August 1, 2012 at 6:58 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Simon Moon - August 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth - August 1, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Simon Moon - August 1, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by CliveStaples - August 9, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by Whateverist - August 10, 2012 at 3:04 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Minimalist - August 1, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: Pascal's wager - by padraic - August 2, 2012 at 2:10 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by Faith No More - August 2, 2012 at 9:08 am
RE: Pascal's wager - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2012 at 9:12 am

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