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Evolution/creation 2
RE: Evolution/creation 2
(August 11, 2012 at 9:10 pm)Drich Wrote:
(August 11, 2012 at 8:46 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Drich, I don't know if this has been asked already, but what do you make of the two creation accounts?

Me personally?

I think no matter what one believes it all comes down to a matter of faith. Because no one truly knows what happened. I know what the bible says and I know what science say as of 1993 plus or minus a few dozen documentries since then, and I can honestly say I do not know what happened, nor am I persumptious enough to claim absolute knoweledge on events that happened a long time before anyone could possiably and absolutly know. for my personal faith does not hang on one account or another. But because my faith claims one, I will teach the one as written in accordance to my faith. Because of this, to combine the two accounts means little in the way of reconsiling anything for me personally. But, I do see it as an obstical for those who fancy themselves as 'free thinkers' who just happen to 'think' just like every other 'free thinker.' that is the reason for my efforts here. to eliminate the barrier between religious thought and 'free' thought. In hopes that it will inspire actual independant thought apart from the 'free thought' most of you have been programed to think. Wink

I find it interesting that you explicitly said that trying to figure out how the two accounts fit together means nothing to you. But here you are fighting for a literal interpretation of Genesis. Well... It doesn't take any sort special free thinker to realise when man and woman are getting created twice and in different orders with respect to other events that something isn't right. I personally cannot then accept this as a possibility of how we were created. My free thinking doesn't want knots.

Why can you live with the contradiction and still teach a literal understanding? That is a contradiction within a contradiction i.e. inception!
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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Evolution/creation 2 - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by Reforged - August 6, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by jonb - August 6, 2012 at 11:08 pm
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RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by jonb - August 6, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by Reforged - August 6, 2012 at 11:40 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by Whateverist - August 7, 2012 at 4:36 am
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by jonb - August 7, 2012 at 6:01 am
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by jonb - August 6, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 11:38 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 11:44 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by MountOlympus - August 8, 2012 at 1:28 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by Cato - August 6, 2012 at 11:46 pm
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RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by NoMoreFaith - August 8, 2012 at 7:26 am
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by NoMoreFaith - August 7, 2012 at 4:28 am
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by FallentoReason - August 7, 2012 at 4:58 am
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by Drich - August 7, 2012 at 2:23 pm
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RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by FallentoReason - August 12, 2012 at 10:10 pm
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RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by FallentoReason - August 13, 2012 at 5:17 am
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