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Evolution/creation 2
RE: Evolution/creation 2
(August 11, 2012 at 9:22 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: I find it interesting that you explicitly said that trying to figure out how the two accounts fit together means nothing to you. But here you are fighting for a literal interpretation of Genesis.
As i have said at least 10 dozen times in nearly 100 pages of dialog my account does not change the orginal in any way shape or form.
The orginal speaks of the events inside of the garden and does not speak of an time line outside of the literal creation account.

Quote:Well... It doesn't take any sort special free thinker to realise when man and woman are getting created twice and in different orders with respect to other events that something isn't right.
what is not right is your understanding of traditional Hebrew accounts/story telling.

Quote:Why can you live with the contradiction and still teach a literal understanding? That is a contradiction within a contradiction i.e. inception!
We've had this discussion before. Jews then did not give a straight chronological account of an event. They started with an over view from start to completion and then went back and filled in the details the over view did not include.
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Evolution/creation 2 - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by Reforged - August 6, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by jonb - August 6, 2012 at 11:08 pm
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RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 11:35 pm
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RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 11:38 pm
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RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by FallentoReason - August 7, 2012 at 4:58 am
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RE: Evolution/creation 2 - by FallentoReason - August 12, 2012 at 10:10 pm
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