RE: Evolution/creation 2
August 12, 2012 at 4:53 pm
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2012 at 5:05 pm by Drich.)
(August 12, 2012 at 3:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Ah, I see, it's scorched earth time. After having this gibberish criticized from literally every angle you feel the need to throw your hands in the air and say "meh, it's all the same, it's all faith"What do you understand "Biblically based faith" to mean? The way you have used it in your scorched rant you seem to be missed informed as to it's actual meaning. you have since taken this red herring and built a falacious arguement suggesting that a Biblical based theology is a theology or denomination unto itself. (meaning there are absolutes and rules to follow when flying this flag) Then you attack and 'scorch' the straw man you have built. It is easy to 'scorch the earth' so long as you 'scorch it' with in the boundries of a camp fire ring you have built for yourself.
Guess what, nope. Sound your retreat into inanity some other way, some way that doesn't insult our intelligence or your own. If you were going to default to faith as an endgame you could have saved yourself the trouble of waffling around about things like the fossil record and evolution in the first place. Here's the real kicker though, assume for a moment you weren't horrendously wrong, your excuse here is garbage. Why? Because in admitting that you don't know (and, for some hilarious reason insinuating that it could not be known) you reduced what was once rambling gibberish into a rambling appeal to ignorance - and it's still gibberish.
The only interesting thing you posted in this response was that your faith hangs on neither account. Of course it doesn't. Your faith doesn't hang on any account Drich, which is what I've been trying to express to you in just about every thread you've made since joining. Are we going to drop the "biblically based faith" bullshit in light of this? No, of course not.
If you want to make an honest run at biblically based theology then you need to take into account that it can and does encompass ALL Jesus Christ centered Religions that teach that He died as an attonement for sin and was resurrected on the 3rd day.
We are only responsiable for what it is we have been given. I do not need an explaination of orgins, because I am content with "God did it." whether the 7 days be minutes, months or milliena It makes no difference to me. why? Because not matter the actual truth it all boils down to "God did it."
After all Adam and Eve weren't new borns when God created them, so why should we think the earth was what we think of as 'new?' again this is enough for me, and my faith does not hang on what I need to be true eitherway. Whether the earth is 6000 years old or 600 trillion years old, I don't care. Why? Because only a fool speaks in absolutes when none are to be had. to say "I truly don't know what or how our orgins happened." Is the only absolute truth any of us can ever have. Which I am ok with, but 'others' are not, and I can respect that. So it is my task to help people like that reconsile what it is they think they 'need' to know.
(August 12, 2012 at 4:49 pm)ElDinero Wrote:(August 12, 2012 at 4:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Faith in facts is still faith. 'Facts' Change all of the time, the faith one has in ever changing Facts, is the his current understanding/configuration of facts is the correct one.
I never once used the word 'facts'. Why are you even bringing this up? Don't quote my post and then respond to a point I never made, dolt.
Obstinate? or simply ignorant to the fact that "Scientific evidence" (A term which you did use) is based in what are known in the 'scientific community' as FACTS!
Quote:Try again. Address my argument, or concede the issue.This is only your second post to me and you are already circling the bowl! This 'demand' is poorly conceived widely used exit strategy one generally reserves as a last ditch effort to retreat from a topic and try and remain 'on top.' But I see here you have decided to lead with your exit strategy instead!