Better reasons to quit Christianity

[spockrates]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

You should probably read those things before you post them. Insulting you isn't an ad hominem.

You're wrong and you're hair is funny: insult.

You're wrong because your hair is funny: ad hominem.

I don't think you're sincere. I don't think you're open to changing your view on atheism, as you claim. I think you're just here to lead us around in circles.

Furthermore, I'd rather you didn't change your view on atheism before you change your views on what constitutes rational thought and honest discourse. I'd rather have you on 'the other side'. That's out of my control of course, we don't get to choose who agrees with us.

None of that makes you wrong about your views on atheism. It doesn't make you a bad person, either...lots of people don't put their best foot forward on the internet. It's a very anonymous environment and for all I know you're 12 and just having us on or 80 and breaking the tedium between cancer treatments. I'm in no position to judge you personally. Your internet persona, on the other hand, is a different matter. I don't see the point of continuing to engage you on this topic in this thread. I'm not going to put you on ignore or anything, your behavior in other threads or on other days might be a different story.

Best of luck with everything.

Fair enough. It was not an ad hominem attack, because I believe I have not made any assertion to attack. I stand corrected, and please accept my apology.

What I don't understand, Mister is why you think I have a view on atheism, since I have not expressed one! What I have done is to ask questions about the reasons others have given why they are atheists. I'm not sure why you believe asking questions about why someone believes is the same as denying what someone believes. (However, I'd love to ask you why, if only you would care to answer!) I don't think I have said that anything anyone has told me was not true--though I should make an exception in your case and say it is untrue that I'm insincere about seeking the the truth.

It seems to me your opinion of me is like that of the critics of Socrates saying he denied the pagan gods were wise simply because he asked the pious Euthyphro some questions about why he believed they were. Asking Euthyphro how he knew the gods were wise (given that the gods disagreed and fought among themselves about what was wise and what was foolish) was not the same as denying they were wise, regardless of Euthyphro's inability to answer the question. At best, the only thing Socrates' questions proved was that Eutyphro didn't know, which is quite different from asserting that what Euthyphro thought he knew was untrue.

Best of luck to you, too. (BTW, I still like your avatar's costume!)