(August 22, 2012 at 7:34 pm)Undeceived Wrote:(August 22, 2012 at 1:44 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Yep, they DID eat the fruit, and get exiled and cursed for doing something they couldn't know was wrong before they did it.The point was not that they didn't know it was wrong (though God's command should have conveyed that). The point is the Devil tempted them saying, "you will be like God." In the moment before eating the fruit, their hearts became greedy. They no longer thought of God, but themselves, seeking to reach the level of God--to be autonomous, answerable to no one. They chose selfishness over love. Thus, they could no longer be in God's presence, since God is love. Righteousness isn't what you do, it's who you are.
I have to disagree. The Bible says that a person cannot sin from innocence. I think their "sin" was one of shame and blame. They became ashamed of their natural bodies, hid from God, and blamed everyone except for themselves.
Did the Earth magically change at that point? I doubt it. All that changed was Adam and Eve's percetion of ALL THAT WAS GOOD to an awareness of good/evil, pleasure/pain, joy/sorrow, etc...
They started to be aware of things that were not... I.E. not clothed, not their fault, not simply life but a new awareness of duallity, the created and the non-existent.
have fun attempting to ridicule that...
