RE: Better reasons to quit Christianity
August 25, 2012 at 6:59 pm
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2012 at 8:09 pm by spockrates.)
(August 25, 2012 at 4:38 pm)Faith No More Wrote:spockrates Wrote:I cannot think of any reason why you, or I are not free to choose as we decide to choose. Can you?
Is that really the best you have? That you have no reason to think otherwise?
We may very be slaves to our brain structure. We already know that it has a huge influence on our decision, so it may very well be entirely in control.
Well, if my brain is my mind and it is in control, then my brain has control of the decisions made. It is free, so I must be! However, if you are saying my mind is not my brain, but something else (like a soul) then I suppose my brain might be the puppet master pulling my soul's strings, yes. But is that what you are saying? My soul is slave to my brain? If not, then how can my brain not be free, since it has complete control over me and is, in fact me?
(August 25, 2012 at 4:46 pm)Stimbo Wrote: "I used to think the brain was the most important organ in the human body. Then I realised what it was that was telling me that."
-- Emo Philips, philosopher and scholar
LOL!

(August 25, 2012 at 5:47 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:(August 25, 2012 at 4:11 pm)spockrates Wrote: ...
Thanks, Tea. Please tell me: What evidence do you expect a true religion to have? Will you be more specific?
It depends on the religion and its claims. For Christianity, I would need evidence that Jesus was the son God, performed miracles, died on a cross for our sins, and was raised from the dead. The only evidence I get are contradictory reports several decades later from the events who do not document the story anywhere close to the best scientific and historical methods of the time (Luke is the only gospel that pretends to be historical investigation but it's pathetic compared to real histories from real historians that lived around that era). They contain stories that are very similar to other myths that we know for certain preceded Christianity. The story follows the dying and rising motif common in myths. (apologists like to point out little differences and act like that means anything but they're just nit picking and missing the obvious basic similarities).
So would you say your doubt of the historical reliability of the New Testament books and letters stems mostly from their contradictory accounts, or from your doubt of the fantastic claims about Jesus Christ?
(August 25, 2012 at 4:34 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(August 25, 2012 at 4:11 pm)spockrates Wrote: I cannot think of any reason why you, or I are not free to choose as we decide to choose. Can you?
Is this because of your own freedom that you cannot think of any such reason, or because of some predestination or similar that involves your not thinking of one?
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Yeah, perhaps I'm a sleeper CYLON and I only think I'm human. Watch out Adama, I've got a bullet with your name on it, and I don't even know it!

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