RE: The Arrogance of Atheism
September 12, 2009 at 12:56 am
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2009 at 12:58 am by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
umm, exactly what 'system of beliefs' do atheists hold? [as a group]
My position :
I assert "I do not believe in gods" yet concede the possibility of error. I make no claims of any kind. I posit no philosophy, belief system or ideology AS AN ATHEIST*. In fact,my position is the antithesis of those things.
I do not care if others feel as I do. Nor do I have any interest in convincing anyone of the validity of my lack of belief. It's a non issue for me. Having made no claims, I have no burden of proof.
The theist claims " I believe in god(s)" or "There IS a god!"
My position: "Good for you! May you live long and and prosper."
"What? You want me accept your beliefs as true? Mkay,why should I accept that? You must have some pretty amazing evidence huh? Not actually? Well fuck off then,and stop wasting my time"
I DO have a basic philosophical position:Egoism.
*Morality and ethics: Relativist
Political Ideology: Theoretical Marxism, including acceptance of the Conflict Theory Of Power.
Although my world view probably precludes a Christian life,there is nothing antithetical to theism per se.
The accusation of "the arrogance of atheists" is an old fashioned ad hominem attack.
Many people ,such as my good self and Richard Dawkins can be arrogant and down right obnoxious.We also happen to be atheists. We are just arseholes, not arseholes BECAUSE we are atheists.
The claim of the "arrogance of atheists" is nonsense every bit as much as "theists are willfully ignorant hypocrites".
Have I missed the point again? Perhaps I'm not a "real atheist"
.
My position :
I assert "I do not believe in gods" yet concede the possibility of error. I make no claims of any kind. I posit no philosophy, belief system or ideology AS AN ATHEIST*. In fact,my position is the antithesis of those things.
I do not care if others feel as I do. Nor do I have any interest in convincing anyone of the validity of my lack of belief. It's a non issue for me. Having made no claims, I have no burden of proof.
The theist claims " I believe in god(s)" or "There IS a god!"
My position: "Good for you! May you live long and and prosper."
"What? You want me accept your beliefs as true? Mkay,why should I accept that? You must have some pretty amazing evidence huh? Not actually? Well fuck off then,and stop wasting my time"
I DO have a basic philosophical position:Egoism.
*Morality and ethics: Relativist
Political Ideology: Theoretical Marxism, including acceptance of the Conflict Theory Of Power.
Although my world view probably precludes a Christian life,there is nothing antithetical to theism per se.
The accusation of "the arrogance of atheists" is an old fashioned ad hominem attack.
Many people ,such as my good self and Richard Dawkins can be arrogant and down right obnoxious.We also happen to be atheists. We are just arseholes, not arseholes BECAUSE we are atheists.
The claim of the "arrogance of atheists" is nonsense every bit as much as "theists are willfully ignorant hypocrites".
Have I missed the point again? Perhaps I'm not a "real atheist"
.
