RE: Free will is an illusion
August 28, 2012 at 11:14 am
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2012 at 11:20 am by DeistPaladin.)
This discussion is completely pointless.
There's no way to inspect either worldview, since any choice can be written off by the determinist as "well, that choice was inevitable anyway given your genetics and background."
Since the determinist can play that card ad ininitum, what's the point?
"Welcome to another episode of Determinist Court. It was inevitable you'd be watching now."
"Your honor, while it is true my client pleads guilty to the murder, he wasn't responsible since choice is an illusion and his actions were the inevitable consequence of his environmental background and genetic background."
"I understand but unfortunately this court, being the sum of beings that also lack free will are unable to come to any conclusion aside from his guilt and even though free will is an illusion, we are compelled by our backgrounds to punish him as if it was real."
*Gavel pounds*
"This has been another episode of Determinist Court where the verdict, whatever it may be, is always inevitable."
There's no way to inspect either worldview, since any choice can be written off by the determinist as "well, that choice was inevitable anyway given your genetics and background."
Since the determinist can play that card ad ininitum, what's the point?
(August 28, 2012 at 4:20 am)apophenia Wrote:(August 26, 2012 at 12:49 pm)whateverist Wrote: What is the "law and order gong"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OlCVNn9ZeY
"Welcome to another episode of Determinist Court. It was inevitable you'd be watching now."
"Your honor, while it is true my client pleads guilty to the murder, he wasn't responsible since choice is an illusion and his actions were the inevitable consequence of his environmental background and genetic background."
"I understand but unfortunately this court, being the sum of beings that also lack free will are unable to come to any conclusion aside from his guilt and even though free will is an illusion, we are compelled by our backgrounds to punish him as if it was real."
*Gavel pounds*
"This has been another episode of Determinist Court where the verdict, whatever it may be, is always inevitable."
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... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
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... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
